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#1 Schrabikus

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:20

Hello, friends!
Can you please listen to attached mp3 and tell, is it normal, or something wrong?
Noise remains when i disconnect LCD and CS from the core.
So far i can not exclude PSU (it's one from dvd player +12v/-12v/+5v) but noise lasts about half a second after switching PSU off.
Cable from core to OPL3 board is about 12cm, soldered directly to core.
Thanks in advance.

And the OPL3 +5v led lights with only J2 connected.

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Edited by Schrabikus, 03 March 2012 - 08:22.


#2 Shuriken

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:43

Although not easy, i would try a different PSU. The PSU is probably a switcher, which can cause noise if the switching frequency is low.

Edited by Shuriken, 15 January 2012 - 12:44.


#3 TK.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 14:17

It sounds like the noise is coming from the LED switching matrix, this could be the result of a certain coupling between the 5V and +/-12V voltage domain.

Try the following:
- ensure that the ground of the audio jacks + the OPL3 board is directly connected to the ground of the PSU (and not to the core module)
- add 100 uF caps between ground an the -12V and +12V supply input of the MBHP_OPL3 module (take care for the polarity!)
- if this still doesn't help, add 10 Ohm resistors in serial between the +12V and -12V output of your PSU and the appr. MBHP_OPL3 inputs, this helps to decouple the noise as well!

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#4 Schrabikus

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 15:29

Have no words to thank you, Thorsten!!!
With 100 uf caps at OPL3 board the noise decreased by half (MBFM_noise_capacitors.mp3)
Than i've changed 47 uf PSU caps with 200 uf and added 2x10 ohm resistor
Aaaand the noise disappeared completely!!!!! (MBFM_noise_capacitors_resistors.mp3) :sorcerer:

conclusion: switching PSU from dvd player can be used in audio apps!

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Edited by Schrabikus, 15 January 2012 - 15:32.


#5 Schrabikus

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 15:43

I've removed additional caps from OPL3 board and voila!!! No noise at all!
So increasing capacity of PSU output caps + adding 10 ohm resistors totally eliminates the noise.

#6 TK.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 00:04

Very cool!
Great to know that this simple method works! :)

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#7 mrspring

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 14:32

I just had this problem, an idle noise in the background, using a TRACO TXL 035-1212D - a quite high end PSU for this application in fairness.

 

Cured it totally by moving the sleeve of the audio outs to the - on the PSU rather then the one on the Core as i was doing previously..

 

No need for caps or whatnot, this is a total solution!


Edited by mrspring, 20 March 2013 - 14:33.





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