Encoders from voti

[SexyBeast]

Hi,

the Midibox Wiki suggests using encoders from voti, though they are detended. I always thought that only non-detended encoders should be used for best performance. What's the truth?

regards, tom

[machinate]

I read Non-detented somewhere - somehow that should give a higher resolution?

[raphael]

Hi,

I always thought that only non-detended encoders should be used for best performance. What's the truth?

This has nothing to do with performance, but with non-detented encoders you can use the "double resolution" feature (read this thread: http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=parts_q;action=display;num=1048692275;start=4#4) I think that's what you've read.

In general:

NON-detented encoders are godd for 'smooth' operation of synth controls (like on the MB-SID or on the MB16E...).

Detented encoders are good for application where you need a clear response for every change of a value (like with the MB-SEQ). Every 'click' is a increment/decrement.

So it only depends on your preferences if you use detented or non-dtented encs)

I always use detented encoders... even for soft-synth control.

[raphael]

Just to clarify this "higher resolution" myth:

There is no higher MIDI resolution with non-detented encs!

The higher resolution only means that you get more increments/decrements per angle of rotation. So if xou got 24step encs you will get:

-24 increments/decrements with the detented type

-48 increments/decrements with the non-detented type

So you have to turn the detented enc twice to get the same value as with the non-detented one.

(Or you use the FAST Option in MIOS ;D. That's what I prefer instead of turning and turning and turn...)

I think the diagram of Thorsten int he mentioned thred makes the encoder modes quite clear.

raphael

[illogik]

and if you want you can still buy from voti; you can make the encoders non detented. I discribed how i did it here:

http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=parts_q;action=display;num=1092049636;start=3#3

cheers,

marcel

[SexyBeast]

Hi,

thank you very much for your replies.

By 'performance' I meant 'performance of the encoders', not the core or something else. I had something in mind about 'resolution' but it wasn't quite clear.

I know that different encoders can not alter "MIDI resolution" in any way. (Why should anyone believe that?)

In any case I will order encoders from voti now, the price is unbeatable...   ;-)

regards, tom

[raphael]

Hey Tom,

I know that different encoders can not alter "MIDI resolution" in any way. (Why should anyone believe that?)

I didn't want to offend you!

If you hang around for a while in this forum, you will  hear some quite funny questions about MIDI and electronics... ;D

So I thougt it would be better to clarify the term 'resolution' concerning encoders.

Raphael

[SexyBeast]

Hi Raphael,

sorry, I didn't want to offend you either and I'm sorry if I gave you the impression of feeling offended.

I know that many strange questions are asked in this forum and in fact I do very much appreciate you giving a detailed answer though you might think it's a funny question.

This is one of the best characteristics of this forum; people are very friendly here. I've seen a lot of places where people try to impress each other by their smattering and where they're defending their opinions in a rude tone.

bye and regards, tom