Phattline Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Oh man, thats it, I had always the problem that i must use one midichanal for kick one for snare one for hihats, and then I had only one SID for Lead or Base, But!I was thinking about building a second full stuffed (4 quad) Midibox Sid and take for each instrument one sidmodule, because some drumsound must have 3 oszillator- because the have more punch like for basedrum, with one oscillator you need a compressor to get punchy basdrums, but maybe we can make a simple compressor with a optocopler (in the web there are enough plans about it)or "only " a software for the normal Step C Midibox that splits the incoming midinotes in C-1 D-1 A-1 B-1 or whatever and send it to the master for basedrum to the 1st slave for snare for the 2nd slave for Hi Hat for the 3rd slave for the open hihat or toms or blönks or whatever, and for all this some analog compression, and to get near all time the same loudness, because to get different sounds you will limit or expand in a big way the volume- and thats meens this is not good for liveacting......lg phat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 or "only " a software for the normal Step C Midibox that splits the incoming midinotes in C-1 D-1 A-1 B-1 or whatever and send it to the master for basedrum to the 1st slave for snare for the 2nd slave for Hi Hat for the 3rd slave for the open hihat or toms or blönks or whateveryou can already select specific note ranges for each patch (and each oscillator) seperately, either in JSynthLib, or from the CS (CFG menu), therefore an additional software is not required for such things.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phattline Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 I dont understand this, when I go to configuration menu, i filter the notes - right? yeaOk then I call the patch, KICK 85`, i filter the notes that only C1 came thru, ? yeaOk I go to slave1 call the patch, Snare 85`, i filter the notes that only E-1 came thru, ? no this isn´t because only the master is filteringIs it right that this note filter is not in function with 16F slavecores? so i have to upgrade? so I understand.Lg phat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 i'm not sure what you 2 are discussing here but from what you wrote - after setting the "filter" just on the master, C1 would produce kick+snare and everything else would produce just snare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 oh... oops i just read again your post... that would mean that patches wouldn't include the filter settings (modulations)... that's quite a limitation. i understand it though (only 1 filter for all channels) but maybe something like one filtered voice per SID would be sensible? the patches could all use filter as a modulation target but only 1 could be selected at a time (or all 3 but then un-modulated, like an eq)... so all the patches should sound okay both with filters and without.how does that sound TK? makes any sense?hmm now that i think about it again... dinamically changing patches would mean turning filter channels on and off all the time which would probably cause quite alot of clicks and pops...anyway - any alternative ideas? it'd really be a shame to give up filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Kokoon: now I don't know about what you are talking ;-)If you are refering to the available parameters: check the table again, instead of a single filter value, each voice should provide a global filter control. I think that I will realize this as an cumulative node, which means: each voice can add or subtract something from the global filter valuesIf only one voice is doing this, there is no change compared to the normal MBSID at all. If multiple voices are controling the filter at the same time, you will notice very strange effects... but who knows, maybe interesting effects?Filters can also be modulated (see table) --- also all voices at the same timeI'm really not planning to give up filters!Phattline: you are refering to the keyboard zones. No, they are not supported by the old PIC16F firmware. And your assumptions are also not correct... not the master filters the notes, but the internal MIDI In handler.I will split this thread so avoid even more confusion ;-)Best Regards, Thorsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 hahaha wtf was wrong with me last night?!? that second post belongs to the other thread... the one about the MBSID drummachine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 This was nothing personal! I just thought, that a discussion about a feature, which is implemented in the MIOS based "normal" MBSID, but not in the old PIC16F "normal" MBSID, has nothing to do with the MBSID-DAnd the misleading assumption from your side (in short words: patches don't allow filter changes) could only lead to an even more confusing questions from people, who read this thread and could think, that this is a discussion about MBSID-DBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 oh so you moved my post ;D i thought i posted in the wrong thread haha. no problem man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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