d2k Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Hi...Would it be possible to use an Alesis AL1101 (datasheets here: http://www.alesis-semi.com/products.htm) to give a digi out for the SID?, is it a case of just running the audio out into the Alesis ADC, or is there other factors to consider? The datasheet for the eval board seems to make it look pretty easy to configure ;)BestDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMusicman Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Hey d2kIf you are going to make a digital out of the SID box, you need more than the A/D converter (AL1101), the output from that one only have what I call "intern SP/DIF" (master clock, L/R clock and data).You need a intern to extern converter like CS8405A from Cirrus, look at [url http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/detail/P57.htmlHope that helpsMrMusicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Perka Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 That sounds like a good idea!How can we get it to work?/P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Hey Perka...I'm not to sure? ;p I'm hoping that ADC from Cirrus Mrmusicman mentioned will take care of it all and that it's just a case of going in and out of it...Best...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosone Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 this look very interesting!just for the sake, i wrote a mail to alesis semiconductor to see if it is possible to buy small quantity of those chips...let's see!it could be interesting for me building a small sfpid/analog converter!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMusicman Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hello again.Just to make things clear.I have made a analog to SP/DIF converter, some years ago, here is part of the component used on it.Cirrus Logic CS5330 18bit A/D converterCirrus Logic CS8402A SP/DIP TransmitterOP275 Dual Opamp (input buffer)some TTL Logic IC, some passive component, and a crystalgenerator for the selected samplefrequence12.288MHz for 48KHz and 11.2896MHz for 44.1KHz.The CS8402A is out of prodution but the CS8405A replace it (now goes up to 96KHz), the CS5330 are still made but can be replaced with a better one (CS5333 or the Alesis one or.....)The hard part to get is the crystalgennerator for 44.1Khz samplerate.Hope that help a little moreKent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hey Kent...Could I, if poss, peep that schem/pcb of the design you done so i've summin to go on - not really a pcb deisgner tho i must say since being very new to all things EE...Thanks againDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosone Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 ehi, MrMusicman can you send us the schematics and the price of your unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMusicman Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 About my old A/D converter.It does not make sence to give my old schematic out, as some of the parts are not accessible any more.I may be ready to make a new A/D (or A/D + D/A) converter, if someone will spare me (sponce?) the IC's for it.Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Hey MMMI requested a cpl of samples of that cirrus chip u mentioned, I also have a cpl of them Alesis A/D and optogen too (see this post: http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=misc;action=display;num=1048154479) which was spose to be for a 16 chan a/d adat project...If they come through and ya still think u could perhaps do summin with em I'll send em ur way...Nice1DAn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMusicman Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Hey d2kLet me know what happens.I have been looking in at the Alesis ADAT IC and been thinking about making a ADAT-Analog and Analog-ADAT with then.When I have some more time I will look in to it and find out what is necessary to make it.Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosone Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 I have made a analog to SP/DIF converter, some years ago, here is part of the component used on it.Cirrus Logic CS5330 Â 18bit A/D converterCirrus Logic CS8402A Â SP/DIP TransmitterOP275 Â Dual Opamp (input buffer)some TTL Logic IC, some passive component, and a crystalgenerator for the selected samplefrequence12.288MHz for 48KHz and 11.2896MHz for 44.1KHz.The CS8402A is out of prodution but the CS8405A replace it (now goes up to 96KHz), the CS5330 are still made but can be replaced with a better one (CS5333 or the Alesis one or.....)The hard part to get is the crystalgennerator for 44.1Khz samplerate.it seems that you can request free samples from cirrus logic for the chips you used (CD8405A instead of 02). so, can you please post me your schematic for you converter?? i'd like to try it!!you can write pvt at m.bosi(at)inwind.itthank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Perka Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 I would also like to build me a analog to digital converter.I requested some samples of the CS8405A and CS5333, so if you could post the schematics or something that would be great!/P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMusicman Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 To all you requesting the schematic on my A/D converter.I do not, sorry, have a schematic made on a computer, I made it in hand (a can't find it). I may be able to find the PCB layout, but it will not be a big help. (different IC and connection compair the the IC you can get now)I will make a new A/D converter (or A/D+D/A) when I have the time (I am busy making other stuff at the moment)I also have an idea the make a ADAT interface, but again, I need time.I Be BackKentPS. May someone can find a place to get the crystalgeneretor needed for it (11.2896MHz (44.1KHz) and 12.288MHz (48KHz)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Hey Kent...Ye, no rush on the digi out add-on, i'll scout around for xtal gen u mentioned tho ;) the a/d adat box would be great too, even better with s/mux so u can route more chans ;p I guess this is where the pic logic comes in. I've been chattin to matey who knows his stuff about this and has said he'll look into it when time is available...wow, this together with that midi router u just whipped up and my i/o is sorted!!Great stuff!Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosone Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Hi...Would it be possible to use an Alesis AL1101 (datasheets here: http://www.alesis-semi.com/products.htm) to give a digi out for the SID?, is it a case of just running the audio out into the Alesis ADC, or is there other factors to consider? The datasheet for the eval board seems to make it look pretty easy to configure ;)i received the reply from alesis:****I apologize for the delay in responding.Prices are as follows:n.1 - AL3201B $5.75/ean.1 - AL3101 $3.95/ea(AL3102 ) $3.80/ean.1 - AL1101 $1.75/ean.1 - AL1201 $1.95/ean.1 - AL1402 $4.28/ean.1 - AL1401A $4.00/eaThe AL3201B is back ordered and I will not have available stock unitl late May.The AL1201 is currently out of stock but I am expecting a delivery by the 15thof April.*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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