Jakes Daddy Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi,I am a DJ and am started to work with midi enabled DJ software like Traktor, Virtual DJ etc.I have just purchased a DJ style MIDI controller, but its cheap and rubbish so have decided to have a go at building one of my own :)I have 'aquired' ;) a broken pro DJ CD deck (Denon DN1800F):and want to use it as my controllerMy thinking is this is perfect for MB64 - or MB64 is perfect for it :)My plan is to build an MB64 and hook it up to the buttons and pots in the control unit. At the moment I am not planning on using the LCDsI think there are probably 10 buttons I want to use (Pitch, Pitch-, Pitch+, Play and Cue for each deck) - so I can get away with one DIN ?And I think there are 6 pots (Pitch slider, inner ring and outer ring for each deck) - so I can get away with one AIN ?So, am I right in thinking that the modules I need are:1 * Core1 * AIN1 * DINIs this right ??Presumably if I wanted to wire up the LCDs at some later stage I can simply add the appropriate module ?And what does the DOUT module do for me ??Thanks in advance,JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBanner Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 sounds like you've got a handle on itand yes add the LCD later if you wish - but it's damn handy for trouble shooting when builidngand a DOUT lets you control LEDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTE Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Maybe this pages will help you too ;)http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0327352/http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=traktorizer_by_mtehttp://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=tos_-_a_tds_controller_blogRegardsMTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild_Weasel Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Did exactly the same Take a look here http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=wild_weasel My controller even looks the samen even it is a DN-2000.Be warned. There will be a bit of C programming required for this thing to work with traktor. If you need help just drop a line and I'll send you my code.You will only need one AIN for the 2 pitch faders (can be reused even if they are not 10k). All the other buttons and the encoder/ jog wheel need DIN inputs.So you will need (per deck or side)11 for the buttons4 for the Shuttle ring2 for the encoder ----17 per side overall 34I did use one DINx4 module per side since I did integrate 4 encoders extra on each side for the FX section in traktor. Kind regardsMichael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Daddy Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Many thanks for your answers - exactly what I wanted to hear :)Be warned. There will be a bit of C programming required for this thing to work with traktor. If you need help just drop a line and I'll send you my code.Michael - you mention a bit of C programming ? Does this mean I need to flash a modified MIOS to the PIC ? If this is the case, does that mean that a) I can buy an unprogrammed PIC, and b) I need a PIC burner ??CheersJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild_Weasel Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi!No MIOS stays the same. It's just a different application "on top".The reason is: MB64 does not support the jog wheels and shuttle ring. So I wrote it mainly to reuse them and to do some nice stuff with the LEDs (you will need a DOUT module for this)So you will ned to order a programmed pic (programmed mens it has the bootstrap loader burned onto). After you have finished the core you upload MIOS over midi and afterwards the application, in this case my selfwritten C program (You will find it on the wiki site I gave you in the post before)m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Daddy Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 OK, I'm just about ready to order my kits - will do it tonight when I get home. I am going for:1 * Core1 * AIN 2 * DIN 1 * DOUTI'll connect my 2 pitch sliders to the AIN, and the LEDs to DOUT (I assume I can 'map' their behaviour somehow ? IE. go on / off when something happens)For DIN I think currently I only need 22 inputs:1 for Pitch Button1 for Pitch-1 for Pitch+1 for Play1 for Cue4 for the Shuttle ring2 for the encoder= 11 per side = 22 digital inputsBut I think it would be better to get 2 DINS and wire up all buttons (total of 34 digital ins), and then they are available to me if I decide to use them.I'm dying to get started on this now .... :DJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Daddy Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Forgot to ask this in my last post ......The standard displays in the DN1800F are LED - right ? - and presumably the LCD module will not drive them ?So I could look for some LCD panels that are the same size/mounting as the current LED panels - if I got 2 (one for each side) would I need 2 LCD modules ?Other than for initial setup, what can the LCD module and panel do for me ? Presumably its not going to be easy to get the host application (eg. traktor or virtual dj) to send data to the LCD panels (ie. make them display the same as if this were a conventional CD deck)JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBanner Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'll connect my 2 pitch sliders to the AIN, and the LEDs to DOUT (I assume I can 'map' their behaviour somehow ? IE. go on / off when something happens)sure, you need to edit the application either in C or ASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild_Weasel Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 The standard display is pretty useless since is not able to display characters and you would need some serious skills to drive the LCD controller (a black tiny IC on the PCB with approximatly 40 pins)Displaying info out of traktor is not possible since Traktor doesn't support this, only some basic midi out for LEDs.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therezin Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 So I could look for some LCD panels that are the same size/mounting as the current LED panels - if I got 2 (one for each side) would I need 2 LCD modules ?The LCD display is controlled directly by the Core. There is no specific LCD module - all the controller circuitry for the display (driver chips etc) on the board that the LCDs are attached to. To my knowledge, the only MIOS app that can control 2 LCDs (definitely the only one I've seen do it) is the MIDIbox LC - though if I'm mistaken, feel free to correct me.Hope this helps.Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therezin Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 *duh*, my mistake - the SEQ can too. Not sure about the others, I'd be happy to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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