Axel

Hi Kent, IMHO i would prefer the 4-slaves-on-a-board solution. I have some real troubles with some of my older equipment using this ´double-decker´technique. First, its more or less hard to change components, second, the hard wiring tends to produce bad soldering points after a while (ok, some years maybe... ;)). Another point is, you will need much space in z-direction for this construction. Axel

Thorsten: :) :) :) Frank: Sorry, didn´t see your posting from yesterday, cause i was writing mine at the same time... Your SX metering method sounds good, do you notice any bandwith problems or instabilities? Axel

Uups..., i guess you found that before... i don´t think you have to enable it in Logic...mmmh?

Hi Thorsten, should be Shift + Name/Value to toggle through vertical/horizontal/off for the LCD level meters. Axel

Hi Dan, it´s part of the LC midi implementation to drive a horizontol or vertical bargraph directly to the LCD. As far as i know it only has 6 segments, which would be enough for me anyway, but i´d like to have some ´real coloured`meters above the faders using some DOUTs. So in order to get this working i assume Thorsten has to make another donation to us addicts... ;) Axel

Puhh, Steinberg back in the Top10 of bad taste... ´Precision engineered and hand-built in Germany by a team of audio professionals`, there´s nothing more to say. >380 backlit, framed buttons >High resolution, 30 segment Meterbridge with 24 >channels and 8 master channels >52 LCD displays with 378 characters in total >14 7-segment displays >1705 LEDs never seen such such a stupid feature list for a midi sequencer controller, which it is supposed to be if i´m right. The only impressing feature for me is the meterbridge, would be lucky to have this in my MBLCs...,ehmm,...Thorsten?! ;) Axel

Hi MrMusicman, 1. Not sure what you mean, but if you´re using motorfaders with touchsensor you can use every mode provided by the host software (write/touch/latch/read) exactly like the ´real´MC/LC. 2. I´m pretty sure this won´t be hard to implement (even if i can´t tell how for i´m no programmer...) 3. Is not implemented until now, but i´m sure Thorsten will take care about this; same for the fact you have to put the DIN/DOUT for encoders and LED-rings at the end of the chain right now. 4. I´m using two LCDs too, and with the BIG HELP of Thorsten i made a mod for my LCs so i´m able to define the position of every channel message in a table. I´m sure Thorsten will make this public when he has corrected my beginner mistakes... ;) Axel

Go to "Configure --- Settings --- Projects" and uncheck "Use one-to-one....", then it should work. Axel

I would definitely go with the 8 rotary encoders per LC as you can reach every parameter like pans, sends, effects and vstis with them. Despite mine are in pan position for 90% i´m glad i can do some automation on effects or vstis if i need to. Dedicated Buttons for solo, mute, channel select are a must, rec enable too if you are recording to many tracks at once (the rumour goes that some people out there are recording BANDS with REAL DRUMS... ;)) Also you should consider one button per encoder (so called v-select if it´s not build into the encoder) This works perfectly for me except for EQing. For this purpose i don´t want to look at the display or the monitor but concentrate on my ears, so i need to have an encoder/pot layout which is more habtic (i´m sure you know what i mean...). I would take encoders for this purpose too, so you don´t have to break your neck with a soft-takeover environment. BTW, one the main benefits of LC is the jogwheel, once touched you will never work without it . >>Looks like the 18f will support 8MF each but not concurrent with extra analog inputs as pots for pan etc. << Thorsten said it´s possible to attach all the needed mf´s, encoders and buttons for a complete LC to a single 18F core, but i don´t know how this is done until now as the mf-board is attached to one of the din ports in the "old" design. I don´t think it´s possible to attach analog pots to the LC as this is not part of the LC midi specification. 3 seperate midi-ins? I have a midisport 4x4, so i never had to think about this. I think it´s the simplest way to get a multiport interface as logic needs a dedicated in/out for every LC. Axel

Sorry, should read: I hope Thorsten will provide a solution for using two LCDs on one box... Axel

Hi Ian, i´m working with a setup of two LC-emus (the "old" hardware with 16F´s) for two month now, and like Thorsten said, i don´t want to miss it either! But there are some things you have to find out for yourself: - i have installed all the buttons for program functions like zoom, marker, nudge etc., but i can´t get used to most of them because i´m much faster with key commands. - EVERY parameter from plugs or vstis is written to the lcds in a long row without the possibility to filter out some functions you don´t need. Espacially for EQing i wished i had a more "intuitive" encoder layout like in my favourite EQ (will be UAD Cambridge when it´s finally out...); i´m thinking about making an additional encoder set for this. - as i´m mainly using the LC as a mixing console it´s very important to have the tracknames right above the faders, so the 240x64 grafic-LCD is not a good option for me. In the actual state my LC boxes are a little handicapted because i´m using two 2x40 LCDs and therefore i have to do some switching to see ch. 7/8 and 15/16. I hope Thorsten will provide a solution for using two LCs´s on one box... ;) As my songs are normally about 15-25 tracks (+ effects. busses etc.) i´m also thinking of expanding my setup to 3 LCs. >>Really I would like to build a desk with all the pans, aux,mute,solo etc buttons just sitting there rather than having to navigate thru a bunch of buttons That´s exactly true for me too. It´s most important for getting a good workflow that you don´t have to think about your working procedures. Best regards, Axel

Encoder means "endless pot". These are used in Midibox 16e. The advantage - espacially in mixing applications - is the possibility to edit parameters in a relative mode, i.e. after changing the channel group. Just have a look at the MB 16e site. There are no doubleclick or shift+ functions in the current firmwares, but you could simulate a shift functions by using the bank feature of MB; i.e. button definitions in bank 1 for muting, in Bank 2 for soloing, so you only need one set of buttons plus some more for bankswitching.

Hi Daniel, with the build in "generic remote" both ways are possible: you can control a selected parameter or a fixed parameter. You can also define channel groups to switch between sets of fixed parameters. But: (as far as i know) it is not possible to move through single channels with up/down buttons, so you have to make at least dedicated buttons for selecting every channel of a group. For my experience it is a good idea to make dedicated buttons/LEDs for mute, solo and rec enable for every channel to get a good status overview. It is a good idea to do like LO said: just build a test curcuit with some pots, encoders (much better than pots!), buttons, LEDs and test it with your application to see what makes sense for your layout/design. Axel

Hi, have this 2 out of 3 times when programming a pic for the first time. Just write the firmware again until the LCD is working... If you are using the in-circuit programming connector, try to diconnect all other leads while programming. Axel

Hi, there is no "case" right now, i put the whole thing into my old Soundcraft console. The panel i made out of a material called "Hartschaumplatte" (got it at a DIY-market). This material is cheap, easy and fast to work with for prototyping. When i&acute;m sure the layout is practicable i will order a aluminum panel from Schaeffer Apparatebau in Berlin. The "data wheel" is just the 16th encoder of the lower 16e without LEDs attached. Axel

Hi Frank, thanks for the compliment, but there are still some things to do on my box... The Buttons and LED disks i made on a friend&acute;s ...eh... turning lathe (...is this really the right word..?) from plexiglas. The knobs are fitted on top of really cheap microswitches from Bürklin (www.buerklin.com, search for G070.612), i think you could get similar ones at your place. The LEDs are not integrated in the knobs, they are just mounted to pcb and bent, so they are illuminating the plexiglass knobs from the side. This way every button with knob and LED was only about 30 cents (and a little work...) Axel

Hi Frank and LO, my motorfaders (16 alps at two cores and mf&acute;s with a 11V/1.25A powersupply for each of them) are working great without any of the described problems. You both should try to change back to the 1k trimmer and instead replace the 240 Ohm with a 100 Ohm. At least it should be easier to regulate the voltage this way. I don&acute;t know if this cures your midi problems. BTW, does any of you have any problems to configure the mf by sysex? Axel

I had the same problem, solved it by changing R1 (240 Ohm) to 100 Ohm. Axel