ytsestef Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi there, lovely SIDheads!I know It's been a while, but I moved (as in "i live elsewhere now" :P ) and I don't have an internet connection YET.Anyway, the MBSID works fine, I am impressed, I wrote a demo for it and I'm gonna upload it in two weeks time (when I HOPE i will be able to connect to the damn thing). I'm also going to upload some pictures of the "constructing" procedure as well as the final synth as it is now.I have a suggestion which I *think* is pretty easy for TK to implement and quite helpful, especially for those who have the minimum Control Surface and want to control the machine via an external MIDI controller. Here goes:Supposedly I have a MIDI controller (eg. such as behringer BCR-2000) and I have assigned the rotary encoders to control the Filter Cutoff Frequencty, the Attack Time, the Resonance, the LFO frequenct etc. Wouldn't it be lovely if the MBSID's LCD read what am I tweaking and what is its current value? (Just like if I had a full control surface, that is).That's it. I hope this can be done one day...Bye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmosuave Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hmmm I like the sound of that... Good idea!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 A direct mapping of incoming SysEx parameter changes to CS items isn't possible without a lot of additional program code+map tables, or a lot of calculations, which would affect the performance of the synth engine. I guess, that nobody would really like such a visualisation feature which leads to drawbacks at the audible side, or which would prevent me from adding new features in future because of a completely allocated flashBut - maybe a more powerful, because more flexible option: it would be possible to integrate a "remote control" function for button and rotary encoder functions. Are you able to send relative CCs with your MIDI controller?Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 A direct mapping of incoming SysEx parameter changes to CS items isn't possible with a lot of additional program code+map tables...isn't possible without a lot of... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 fixed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsestef Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 i didn't know it was that much a complex thing.yes, i can send MIDI cc messages via my controllers...what exactly is your suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Does your controller send "B0 xx 41" on clockwise encoder turns, and "B0 xx 3F" on anticlockwise turns?Then I could easily add a function which allows to "emulate" the encoders of the MBSID CS (as I wrote: remote control)The buttons should send MIDI controllers as well, e.g. "B0 xx 7F" if pressed, "B0 xx 00" if depressed.MBSID won't be able to control external LEDs (the slow MIDI protocol would block the firmware too much)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buhler Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Does your controller send "B0 xx 41" on clockwise encoder turns, and "B0 xx 3F" on anticlockwise turns?Then I could easily add a function which allows to "emulate" the encoders of the MBSID CS (as I wrote: remote control)The buttons should send MIDI controllers as well, e.g. "B0 xx 7F" if pressed, "B0 xx 00" if depressed.MBSID won't be able to control external LEDs (the slow MIDI protocol would block the firmware too much)Best Regards, Thorsten.you would test this with MIOS, correct? i have an E-mu Xboard49 with 16 knobs that send cc messages to whatever MIDI device i have it plugged into. would this "emulation" you are talking about allow me (with my stepB CS) to control the stepC features via my MIDI controler?? sorry for the complicated question but it would be great if that is what you guys are talking about. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foona Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Then I could easily add a function which allows to "emulate" the encoders of the MBSID CS (as I wrote: remote control)I like this.And as long as the peformace of the engine don't get "scrambled" it would be cool.But i must point out, that very happy with the engine now.And more engine features in the future is preferd in my case.Anyway, everything you do is cool TK. The first day with my finished SIDv2 i was amazed about the possibillities.Iv'e owned alot of synthesizers in my time, and this configuration is really powerfull.MbSID is just freakin awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Thank you for the nice words! :)A remote control feature isn't that expensive, and it wouldn't cost much effort so long you don't expect a detailed documentation...Btw.: for those who haven't experienced the full feature set of MBSID V2 yet, Rutger's upcoming editor will help a lot to get an oversight.Teaster:Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Cool, consider me fully teased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foona Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Now that is a must have! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmosuave Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I hope that editor is for PC as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Gimme, gimme, gimme! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 nILS: it's already in your svnmios repository! :)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I hope that editor is for PC as well....it's java based, so it works under Windows/MacOS/LinuxBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 nILS: it's already in your svnmios repository! :)Um, yeah, bugfight and I just noticed. How'd we miss that? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hehehe catch up fellas! Didn't you notice the massive log when you updated that time? I thought my local repo was screwey because it was so long I thought it'd updated the entire trunk again ;DUnfortunately I looked at the log and went "oh, that's that editor, cool. WTF do I do with all these files anyway?" and proceded to tactically ignore it *whack* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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