Davo Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Has anyone used flat-topped leds for their mb6582. I haven't yet fitted mine with leds and I was considering ordering some flat-topped ones. Any opinions on how that would look and feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Damn... There goes my "unique" MB-6582 ;D Flat top LEDs look very nice. They fit flush witht the case and just look like coloured dots till you power them on. They seem to "contain" the light to the hole as well. I got some red ones for all my indicators and orange ones for my matrix, unfortunately they all look red (should have checked this out before I soldered them :-[ ) so I', swapping the ones in the mod matrix to yellow. Rapid electronics supply these (Go to the 3mm LED section and then select the Knightbright cylindrical link and they are listed there), I'm half thinking about organising a big order for some as I don't think they are available at all electronics suppliers in all countries. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganchan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 i've a list of bookmarks for site that sell flat top leds, some are very cool. i will attach as i recover from my suck XP computer :).i want to buy some for my x0xs and 6582 too, so bulk is welcome.G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Yes, I ordered some red 5mm ones for my x0x :D Will look at prices on rapid next week and see if it's worth doing an order, although I don't think it'd save much as LEDS are nice and cheap anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Of course you could just take a fine file and flatten the regular cheap LEDs. Polish them up with steel wool or leave them 'matt' for a diffused effect. You have at least 4mm depth before you hit anything important inside.bassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 LOL.... I've been filing some LEDS for my underlighting... Time consuming!They don't cost that much... I wouldn't really want to filed 100 odd LEDS down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimo Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 http://www.ledtuning.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=87&osCsid=5ec89e9c2287e11c0330ae7aa5e2a237maybe a bit expensive but they ship cheap to europeSimone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jidis Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 I burn down lots of stuff on handheld belt sanders. Hold the sander upside-down or sideways and bring the victim in slowly with the other hand (and watch your fingers :o).Not sure if it would work on LEDs, but it does PCB stock and stuff (which ruins the hell out of the belt BTW).George<edit> forgot: You have at least 4mm depth before you hit anything important inside. ... so I guess you can go all the way down to that YinYang element and they still function and look OK?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I know it daft really, filing down 100 LEDs! ;DBut, like I said, there's about 4mm before you get near anything important, more than enough to make them flat, that only needs about 1mm.Actually, the filed end will be matt, so it does look different, like a diffuser. Try one and see.This is the home of crazy ideas, isn't it? :Dbassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peake Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Great idea! I love that kind of LED and would participate in a group-buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimo Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 http://www.ledtuning.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=87&osCsid=5ec89e9c2287e11c0330ae7aa5e2a237maybe a bit expensive but they ship cheap to europeSimonesorry those one are 5mm !Simone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I know it daft really, filing down 100 LEDs! ;DBut, like I said, there's about 4mm before you get near anything important, more than enough to make them flat, that only needs about 1mm.Actually, the filed end will be matt, so it does look different, like a diffuser. Try one and see.This is the home of crazy ideas, isn't it? :Dbassman I think you d have to be ver crazy to sit there and file 100 LEDS flat by hand when it's not much (/any???) cheaper than just buying them. I did 6 the other day with sandpaper (the only thing I had to hand) and they're toucher than you'd think, although its not out of the question. g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Yeh, buy them. If you must DIY, hold a dremel in a vice and push the led onto it. Works a good'un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Count me in for 2,000 in ultrapink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reboot Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 helloi bought here in Paris at selectronic....more then 120 blue flat leds....1,45 euros each in 3mm :-\the ones from ledtunning at 5mm ...i'd like to find 3mm....cheaper!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I can get hold of Red, High Red, Green, Yellow and Amber (looks very red) 3mm diffused cylindrical LEDS very easily which can be got in any quantity. Prices vary quite a bit depending on quanitity. I have found a place in China that offers 3mm cylindrical waterclear blue LEDs aswell and their website mentions they will deal to individuals so this is a possibility. I shall make enquiries about prices and minimum order quantities/price brakes. This will take a bit more effort but i'm interested in getting some blue ones for myself as the only illuminated fan I could get is blue. :) I'll set up a wiki page when i get a response to my email and see if there is enough interest... There won't be a minimum order for the red/green/yellow/amber diffused ones, but I suspect there may be on the blue ones. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NV Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Here's a link to a YouTube video of a x0xb0x with flat LEDs: Not quite the same, but it should give you a very general idea of what an MB6582 would look like with flat LEDs. Keep in mind these are 5mm LEDs on the x0x, so the 3mms won't be quite as "obviously flat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 3mm ones looke very flat.When you get them in the panel they just look like coloured dots on the surface.I've got a reply back and there is a minimum order quanitity of 1000 of any colour from the place in China. I think it's worth getting an order of blue ones together as these don't seem to be available at many places. These are clear LEDS; the coloured ones look better when mounted so it's probably worth getting them from rapid (who don't do blue) and there will be no minimum order quantity. I've not got much free time at the moment as i'm going away to a festival tomorrow, I'll get a wiki page up soon. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Blue LEDs are bad. Seriously. I regret the blue LEDs now on my MB-6582. One or two blue LED indicators on your notebook or monitor are fine, a whole panel lit up like a Christmas tree in blue LEDs is way too much for your eyes to handle, and a black panel makes it even worse. They may look good in photos, but it's not until you're looking at it in real life that you discover how bad blue light is, even at relatively low brightness levels. (My second MB-6582 uses red LEDs and it's a lot easier to look at! Green would be similarly cool).People should also avoid white LEDs, as they are essentially a blue and yellow LED put in one package, tricking the eye into thinking it's white because it's stimulating the red, green and blue sensors of the retina. Avoid anything with UV as well! Those purple ones are just as bad as blue.FYI: http://texyt.com/bright+blue+leds+annoyance+health+risks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hmnn. didn't know that about the blue LEDS. The cylindrical ones do look good a low light levels as they can just look like coloured dots that appear when lit. I'll still see of there's interest in a bulk order and put a link to your post. It may be useful getting them in for other things. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I've posted a couple times about the dangers or blue and UV LEDs, and the benefits of red or green, and why including some military references... It's definitely the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncientOne Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Strd and Wilba are right. I did an 8x8 display panel with some surplus blue LED's. Looks good as kinetic art, but staring at one, even on dim is not good.Green or red - the military spent a fortune testing this for us......Using a panel in low light on stage, blue is just going to impair your ability to read your other stuff. If you really want to get fancy, then save the cash for an inverse LCD.I bought some supposedly diffused 3mm flat tops from Rapid - they still looked like a tiny bright spark in a block of red plastic. My advice with Flat-tops is definitely try before you buy. The good ones seem to have some kind of fresnel lens in the plastic to give a good even light effect, which is why they are more expensive.I'll get more samples and post some pics.BTW I have batch of retro style chrome bezel 10mm reds if anybody wants some. The LED's can be swapped out for other colours.If anyone is interseted I'll post a pic in the fleamarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hmnn, I got some diffused flat tops from rapid and I thought they seemed OK.. As mentioned before, the only problem was that he amber and red ones looked the same when lit. I quite like them anyway, maybe you have a keener eye than me. g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncientOne Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hmnn, I got some diffused flat tops from rapid and I thought they seemed OK.. As mentioned before, the only problem was that he amber and red ones looked the same when lit. I quite like them anyway, maybe you have a keener eye than me.Which Rapid part number did you get?I think we might haver different ones, by the sound of it. If the otehr flat topped ones are good, I'll fit them to my Wilbabeast.Best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Did you get the normal or the through panel LEDS? The ones I'm talking about are the normal ones, L-424HDT RED CYLINDRICAL 3MM LED (RC)L-424IDT HI/RED CYLINDRICAL 3MM LED (RC)L-424EDT AMBER CYLINDRICAL 3MM LED (RC)I have some green and yellow ones that I need to test too. I can send you a couple of the amber ones that I'm replacing if you want to check out the diffusion. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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