Ixox Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 After modifying the code to be able to control the LFO and the Filter with the same knobs/button like shown at the bottom of :http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.0I had the idea to do this surface control in the same box model :(UPDATED : see below for next evolutions)(Black circle are buttons/encoder and red/yellow are leds...)5 dout + 5 din + J5 enabled for some leds.Does enabling J5 have side effect ?The bottom part with the 6 yellow leds will have one led lighted and will show the row that the knobs will control. Pushing the up/down buttons will change the row and will allow to quickly switch from a control to an other.The left part is, i think, exactly the same as the original design.Before going further, just wanted to check i didn't forgot important controls... Or miss something.The box has 1 SID inside.The code i'm not sure with is to control the matrix like the picture shows.... Don't know if i'll have to write much stuff. The idea is to read the matrix row name on the LCD.Idea, suggestion ?Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Xavier,Does enabling J5 have side effect ?yes, it doesn't allow you to route analog input signals to the LFOs - but thats all.Before going further, just wanted to check i didn't forgot important controls... Or miss something.I'm missing the CC and Edit button - in MBSID V2 they could get a special alternative purpose (not sure, if the link button will get an alternative purpose as well)You could assign the keytracking parameter to the encoder between Resonance and RateDon't know if i'll have to write much stuff. The idea is to read the matrix row name on the LCD.There won't be much memory space in the PIC18F452 for such features (but you will notice this sooner or later...)However, in MBSID V2, the matrix handling will be overworked (more flexible assignments), and I will propably consider more informative LCD messages if there is enough space within the PIC18F4620 flash after all the features have been implenentedBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Thorsten and thanks for the answer,I'm missing the CC and Edit button - in MBSID V2 they could get a special alternative purpose (not sure, if the link button will get an alternative purpose as well)You could assign the keytracking parameter to the encoder between Resonance and RateI've always thought the all STEP B buttons was only for multiple SIDs box.... I've never read this page before.... :-[Yes i have space beside the matrix for that... Keytracking ? I'll try to find out what it is ! There won't be much memory space in the PIC18F452 for such features (but you will notice this sooner or later...)I had in mind to remove some drivers from the MIOS. Graphic LCD, Ain, iic...Will that free some memory or is the SID program always loaded at the same adress (and the free space will so remain the same) ? (that question may show that i didn't understand very well how the bootloader/PIC works...).Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Will that free some memory or is the SID program always loaded at the same adress (and the free space will so remain the same) ? (that question may show that i didn't understand very well how the bootloader/PIC works...).It's difficult to remove parts of MIOS, I cannot give you much support for this, because there are many things which have to be considered (it begins with changing the memory protection mechanisms). It's much easier to use a PIC18F4620 instead, you want to use it anyhow once MBSID V2 is available ;-)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Yes i'll buy the 18F4620 as soon as the V2 is available.... and as soon as i'm sure i get a EUSART bug free one.In the meantime if i cannot get some memory from the Mios i could get some from the SID programm... (matrix, Master/Slave 26Kb inc file and aout).But i'm not sure i'll need much free memory, the matrix arrows when pressed will show the same as the "Mod" menu.Anyway... I'll have to test before keep on talking without knowing (i speak about me).... ;) ThanksXavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I personally think that this is a great idea. Sure it's not as expandable as the full CS, but for those that have no intention of building the full CS, this looks like a good alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Thanks Jaicen.I have an other control surface idea which will be even simpler to make : No more left part... (Are the leds really usefull when you can read the LCD ? I may keep the filter leds however...)And 3 buttons in column (exactly like the knobs) whose action depend on the current row. (choice of the item number, of the wav type, and the third for ring/sync for OSC.)LFO and Filter will have each his own row.I'll try to make a drawing tonight.Do i need the 2 Assign# rows ? What are they usually used for ?I may keep one... Does it have to be OSC or ENV related ?That would require : 2 dout + J5... including 2 assign# rows,the filter leds, CC and Edit.Still 5 Din... 33 inputs... If the matrix have only a down arrow, that would require onlyt 4 dins....Maybe interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 A variation easier to build, and with room for more evolution.Any opinion on which one is better and why ? UPDATED : i really think the second one is the one to go...Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Do i need the 2 Assign# rows ?What are they usually used for ?currently they can be customized in the source code, by default they send MIDI CC'sBut: they will get very important for MBSID V2, where you are able to assign parameters to these knobs from the patch, and you will be able to define min/max ranges for better live handling. So, each patch can get it's own assignments with all parameters which lead to nice variations.In other words: the assignment knobs are a must for MBSID V2!I may keep one... Does it have to be OSC or ENV related ?bothBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Thanks Thorsten for the advice.I have begun the main row code... I will keep both assign rows and i added even an empty one... The new register has its 8 bits used..... ;)I have the code working for the MOD (reduced matrix) that you saw above. That was interesting to do : I learnt how the FSR* registers mechanism of the PIC (to light the leds).Up and down buttons OK... (To bad there were not a ready to use CS_MENU_ButtonDec beside CS_MENU_ButtonInc...) This is i think an interesting cutdown version of the full matrix.That may interest some. I'll publish all my modifications later.Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 While i'm waiting for the new transformer of my midiboxFM to be able to finish it (the old cheap one make awfull background noise)....I had some time to work on this "little surface, maximum control" project...The code is finished and every thing is working fine... The code to write was simpler than expected. The encoder function tables fit perfectly this design. My CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Handler function is very very simple If some are interested i'll post the files i modified... There are lots of empty cells that can be filled with custom functions very easily.(The printing on the picture is not the last version of the design but helped me to check the buttons/knobs....)Still a little work to do on the control surface design and a lot of work to put that in a closed box !!!but that works !!! ;DXavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 The code is finished and every thing is working fine... If some are interested i'll post the files i modified... Great news, good to hear it :) I'd sure like to see the mods you made, could you put them on the wiki? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Don't know where (and how) to put that in the WIKI.Put here are the differences :First the internal variables for the new states and leds...ap_defines.h ;; free: 0x69-0x6e CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW EQU 0x069 TMP6 EQU 0x06a CS_MENU_SELECTED_MATRIXROW EQU 0x06b ;; finally not used TMP7 EQU 0x06c then to light the right leds : cs_menu_leds.inc (no need to keep the TMP1-5[ * ] little functions)... ;; clear temporary registers which hold some LED flags which are not saved anywhere else ;; (see also CS_MENU_DOUT_TABLE) ;; this quick & dirty method saves some memory... ;; TMP6[0..7] movf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, W call MIOS_HLP_GetBitORMask movwf TMP6 ;; TMP7[0..7] lfsr FSR1, CS_MENU_MATRIX_BEGIN ; pointer for LEDs: FSR1 movf CS_MENU_SELECTED_MOD, W movf PLUSW1, W movwf TMP7 then a quick hack to have a dec button function in cs_menu.inc (mostly a copy of ButtonInc)... CS_MENU_ButtonDec ;; save WREG movwf TMP5 ;; save menu settings so that we can jump back to the current menu later movff CS_MENU, SAVED_CS_MENU movff CS_MENU_CURSOR_POS, SAVED_CS_MENU_CURSOR_POS movff CS_MENU_PAGE_OFFSET, SAVED_CS_MENU_PAGE_OFFSET ;; change to menu movwf CS_MENU rcall CS_MENU_Page_Init ;; set new page offset and cursor pos movff MIOS_PARAMETER1, CS_MENU_CURSOR_POS movff MIOS_PARAMETER2, CS_MENU_PAGE_OFFSET ;; select parameter call CS_MENU_EXEC_SelPar ;; decrement the parameter value, if max value reached, reset value movlw 0x00 IFNEQ CS_MENU_PARAMETER_L, ACCESS, goto CS_MENU_ButtonDec1 movff CS_MENU_PARAMETER_MAX_L, CS_MENU_PARAMETER_L incf CS_MENU_PARAMETER_L CS_MENU_ButtonDec1 decf CS_MENU_PARAMETER_L rcall CS_MENU_ParameterUpdate ; update parameter call CS_MENU_EXEC_Hlp_ChangeMenu ; deselect parameter ;; change back to old parameter if we were already in the menu before movf SAVED_CS_MENU, W xorwf TMP5, W bnz CS_MENU_ButtonIncDec_End movff SAVED_CS_MENU, CS_MENU rcall CS_MENU_Page_Init movff SAVED_CS_MENU_PAGE_OFFSET, CS_MENU_PAGE_OFFSET movff SAVED_CS_MENU_CURSOR_POS, CS_MENU_CURSOR_POS goto CS_MENU_ButtonIncDec_End in cs_menu_enc.inc i replaced the old CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Handler, CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Osc, CS_MENU_ENC_CS_LFO, CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Filter and CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Env by: (I'm proud of this one.... ;D) CS_MENU_ENC_CS_Handler ;; move incrementer to MIOS_PARAMETER3 movff MIOS_PARAMETER2, MIOS_PARAMETER3 movf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, W mullw 5 movf PRODL, W addwf MIOS_PARAMETER1, W Then, you must have 5 lines for each part in cs_menu_enc_table.in. (3 lines to add for filter and LFO and a new set of 5 lines for User....) You also have to switch the order to fit the Control surface rows : OSC, ENV, Filter, LFO, User in my case. cs_menu_io_tables.inc... (don't look at the SR/pin number... :-[) DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Exec, 4, 6 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Sel5, 3, 3 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Sel4, 3, 0 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Sel3, 3, 1 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Sel2, 3, 2 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Sel1, 3, 6 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_General1, 1, 5 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_General2, 1, 4 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_General3, 3, 7 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Link, 0, 0 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_CC, 1, 2 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Edit, 1, 3 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Dec, 1, 7 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Inc, 1, 6 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_MatrixRow_Dec, 1, 1 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_MatrixRow_Inc, 1, 0 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_E1, 2, 0 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_E2, 2, 1 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L1, 2, 2 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L2, 2, 3 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L3, 2, 7 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L4, 2, 6 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L5, 2, 5 DIN_ENTRY CS_MENU_BUTTON_M_L6, 2, 4 and CS_MENU_DOUT_TABLE ;; Register and bit SR# Pin# Description DOUT_ENTRY CS_MENU_MODE, CS_MENU_MODE_CC, 0, 1 ; CC LED DOUT_ENTRY CS_MENU_MODE, CS_MENU_MODE_EDIT_FLASHED,0, 2 ; Edit LED ;; TMP6 : main control matrix row DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 0, 2, 0 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 1, 2, 1 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 2, 2, 2 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 3, 2, 3 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 4, 2, 4 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 5, 2, 5 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 6, 2, 6 DOUT_ENTRY TMP6, 7, 2, 7 ;; TMP7 : modulation leds of selected row DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 0, 1, 0 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 1, 1, 1 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 2, 1, 2 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 3, 1, 3 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 4, 1, 4 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 5, 1, 5 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 6, 1, 6 DOUT_ENTRY TMP7, 7, 1, 7 ;; I have many modifications in cs_menu_buttons.inc... (All useless buttons removed) The interesting part are : CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Inc ;; do nothing if button has been depressed IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return movlw 0x06 IFLEQ CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, ACCESS, goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Inc_DoIt clrf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_ChangeMenu CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Inc_DoIt incf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, F goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_ChangeMenu CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Dec ;; do nothing if button has been depressed IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return movlw 0x01 IFGEQ CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, ACCESS, goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Dec_DoIt movlw 0x07 movwf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_ChangeMenu CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_Dec_DoIt decf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, F goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_ChangeMenu CS_MENU_BUTTON_Row_ChangeMenu ;; update TMP6 for easy menu switching movf CS_MENU_SELECTED_ROW, W call MIOS_HLP_GetBitORMask movwf TMP6 ;; menu display movlw 0x00 ; cursor pos movwf MIOS_PARAMETER1 movlw 0x00 ; page offset movwf MIOS_PARAMETER2 movlw CS_MENU_FIL ; menu structure IFSET TMP6, 0, movlw CS_MENU_OSC IFSET TMP6, 1, movlw CS_MENU_OSC IFSET TMP6, 2, movlw CS_MENU_OSC IFSET TMP6, 3, movlw CS_MENU_ENV IFSET TMP6, 4, movlw CS_MENU_ENV IFSET TMP6, 5, movlw CS_MENU_FIL IFSET TMP6, 6, movlw CS_MENU_LFO IFSET TMP6, 7, goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_DisplayUpdateReq goto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Hlp_MenuChangeOk CS_MENU_BUTTON_MatrixRow_Inc ;; do nothing if button has been depressed IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return ;; just show menu if not already on the LCD movlw CS_MENU_MOD IFNEQ CS_MENU, ACCESS, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Hlp_MenuChangeOk movlw 0x00 ; cursor pos movwf MIOS_PARAMETER1 movlw 0x00 ; page offset movwf MIOS_PARAMETER2 movlw CS_MENU_MOD ; menu structure goto CS_MENU_ButtonInc CS_MENU_BUTTON_MatrixRow_Dec ;; do nothing if button has been depressed IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return ;; just show menu if not already on the LCD movlw CS_MENU_MOD IFNEQ CS_MENU, ACCESS, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Hlp_MenuChangeOk movlw 0x00 ; cursor pos movwf MIOS_PARAMETER1 movlw 0x00 ; page offset movwf MIOS_PARAMETER2 movlw CS_MENU_MOD ; menu structure goto CS_MENU_ButtonDec ;; ------------------------------------------------------------------ CS_MENU_BUTTON_General1 IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return IFSET TMP6, 0, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Osc_Sel ;; IFSET TMP6, 1, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 2, rgoto IFSET TMP6, 3, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Env_Sel ;; IFSET TMP6, 4, rgoto IFSET TMP6, 5, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Fil_Sel IFSET TMP6, 6, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_LFO_Sel ;; IFSET TMP6, 7, rgoto return CS_MENU_BUTTON_General2 IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return IFSET TMP6, 0, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Osc_Wav ;; IFSET TMP6, 1, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 2, rgoto IFSET TMP6, 3, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Env_Curve ;; IFSET TMP6, 4, rgoto IFSET TMP6, 5, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Fil_Mod IFSET TMP6, 6, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_LFO_Wav ;; IFSET TMP6, 7, rgoto return CS_MENU_BUTTON_General3 IFSET MIOS_PARAMETER2, 0, return IFSET TMP6, 0, rgoto CS_MENU_BUTTON_Osc_RS ;; IFSET TMP6, 1, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 2, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 3, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 4, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 5, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 6, rgoto ;; IFSET TMP6, 7, rgoto return I also replaced in this file the 2 last lines of CS_MENU_BUTTON_Chg_Ex_Cont and CS_MENU_BUTTON_Chg_Lx_Cont by "return" because i didn't want the modulation toggle button to change the menu....in mios_tables just put the 5 encoders and their SR/pins....I think that's it.Hope this made a readable message.... At least i will be able to read it again in the futur if i didn't remember the mods i made.... ;)Regards,XavierUPDATE : current control surface design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi Ixox,thanks for writing this down! I think the best would be to add a link to this forum article to the wiki, e.g. at this page: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=forum_highlightsThis has the advantage, that people can read about the history (some thoughts which flew into the design), and that they can add commentsBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi thorsten,I found so many usefull things while searching in the forum, i like when people write down what they do/find.That's why i try to do the same.I added a link in the WIKI page you mentionned.Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingbrumsel Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Good morning!Ixox thanks for these tips! This is the perfect Single-Sid-CS-Solution! Great Project!!Q: Do i have to insert the changes from http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.0 also into the code ??MfG Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Ixox thanks for these tips! This is the perfect Single-Sid-CS-Solution! Great Project!!Q: Do i have to insert the changes from http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.0 also into the code ??MfG ChristianThanks... I'm glad you found it usefull...No you don't need the modification of the other thread, only the modifications of this one.Don't hesitate to tell me if something is not clear in the message that shows the modifications.Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ixox, that is great mod! I always wondered why there is no single SID CS. I`ve got bunch of SID chips (and none MB SIDs built yet), but still I wish to use only one chip and full CS. This kind of MB SID could be compact wich is great! I am surely going to build your version of MB SID whan I finish SEQ. Thanks for the mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingbrumsel Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 @IXOXmore questions ;)1. How many DIN's are in use for your SID-Mod ? 2. Is it possible to route 5 or 6 IC's (for the DIN) like shown in the DIN4x-Shematic, (I need more IC's because i have a 2x40 LCD. This means 4 buttons more.)instead of chaining the whole DIN4x-module??Thanks for answeringMfG Christian aka Puddingbrumsel ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hi,I'm glad to see some interest in this Mini-midibox... Thanks a lot for the support.I haven't finished it yet.... I'll have more free time this week end so it should be finished next week.To know the number of 74HC165 (DIN) you need, count the knobs (as 2 inputs) and the button (1 input).You can plug 8 inputs on a DIN... You'll have your number....Answers to your question...1 - In the last version if my box, there are 6 knobs and 23 buttons.So 35 (12+23) inputs = 5 DINs.2 - Of course, it is possible to chain more than 4 IC like as shown in the DIN4x pdf.... up to 16 i think.5 DINS allows 5*8 = 40 inputs... My version only use 35 so you have 5 free inputs... you can add your 4 buttons.You can use a DIN4x module and add after it a single DIN.Note : the modulation part : 10 buttons and 8 leds is optional and independent from the rest.Other question or remakrs are very welcome,Regards,Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mess Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hi Ixox,good job on the cs :)I'm going to build this versionas it seems to fit quite well with my micromodular (form factor)do you have a diagram with the measurements included?I want to make a shaeffer layout for your frontpanel...Michaël Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingbrumsel Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 To know the number of 74HC165 (DIN) you need, count the knobs (as 2 inputs) and the button (1 input).You can plug 8 inputs on a DIN... You'll have your number....Thanks IXOX! It's a good hint how to count the input-devicesMfG Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixox Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 do you have a diagram with the measurements included?I want to make a shaeffer layout for your frontpanel...No problem... when my box is finished and when i'm sure everything is OK.You wouldn't want a shaeffer layout in which you cannot put the knobs and buttons... ;)Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talion Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Hi Ixox,nice work so far!!I've nearly finished my sid exactly like you describted it here. I made my own pcb's and realized this thing on only 3 euro-pcbs including sid, core, 4x bankstick, dinx5, doutx3, optimized c64psu and on-pcb-control-surface....here some (crapy) pictures:[edit]after all of your changes in sourcecode applied:Error[113] C:\DOWNLOADS\MIDIBOX_SID_V1_7303B\CS_MENU.INC 1666 : Symbol not previously defined (CS_MENU_ButtonIncDec_End)Error[126] C:\DOWNLOADS\MIDIBOX_SID_V1_7303B\CS_MENU.INC 1666 : Argument out of range (-8993 not between -128 and 127)Error[113] C:\DOWNLOADS\MIDIBOX_SID_V1_7303B\CS_MENU.INC 1671 : Symbol not previously defined (CS_MENU_ButtonIncDec_End)there must be something missing.....[edit off]Greets Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL-SDK Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Those may be crappy pictures, but that's a damn good build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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