henrygr Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Folks,Have a look here http://personal.ilimit.es/principio/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.6-pack and herehttp://www.arduino.cc/....Any comments??MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jidis Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Thanks for the links!Did that guy do a "random" Sodium Persulfate mix? Heck, mine doesn't even work when I try to measure it. Maybe I should try his approach. ;D --- Come to think of it, it's too "green". Looks more like the acid I'm running now. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 http://wiki.netsynth.org/ ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiocommander Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi,I know about Arduino for some time now, I never tested it, but I think it's quite nice; prices for kits and assembled boards are very good (~20 EUR). The tiny arduino board may be also quite useful. The downside is, that it has no origin MIDI-support and uses its own language and software (based on processing). I don't know if it's possible to develop more complex programs on this thing... and somehow I got mixed feelings about it; maybe it's because I started programming with Macromedia Director/LINGO and I learned some years ago, that it makes no sense for me to put all my effords into such a specialized custom language and software environment. Just my 2c though...I haven't found no advantage until now, that would have made me think about switching from MBHP to Arduino :)best regards,Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrygr Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I posted the links as I think it is always necessary to keep an open mind to what is available as alternatives- I guess that is the basis of any business or intellectual model; to be forever striding for the perfection that doesn't exit by learning from others successes and mistakes. Trust me when I saythat I was relieved when I saw all of your replies- I thought you might shoot the messanger boy!!The board is €15, and then the additional USB interface board is that price again. I think it is quite limited in its amount of physical inputs, which would make it impractical for the gear that most midiboxers (once they get addicted) build. (Off topic- www.midiboxers-anonymous.org- for those of us needing to get off of our asses and tell our family and friends that we still exist!!!! he he he)My final thought on it is that it would make a good quick fix to a problem, but would not not make a permanant solution. Long live MBHP ;DHappy new year all. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mess Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I ran into this some time ago when I was experimenting with processing...(btw processing was fun to get experiment with java, you get instant gratification ;D)the thing I really like about Arduino/Processing is the simple conceptIt seems a lot simpler to get going and understanding the principles thenwith midibox stuff. The Arduino manual is a piece of art on it's own :)The arduino project seems to be very suited to get into micros,but I still like midibox better for the real geeky stuff...it's a little harder to grasp the concepts but you can get a lot more out of itMichaël Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 It is good that alternative solutions do exist with a different focus. The documentation of Arduino is really superb, the software concept is nice, and I think that the platform is sufficient for many experiments. You will run into problems once performance does matter, but this is only a "driver" issue (e.g. converting analog inputs & scanning shift registers via interrupt).Only thing that I don't understand is, why they selected a microcontroller with a low pin-count. Normaly you can never get enough IO pins (especially when a LCD should be connected for debugging), and the price is the same...Btw.: I like the idea that they use the FT232 as a USB interface which makes the adaption to PCs much easier; if a USB driver for COM->MIDI (multiclient capable of course!) would exist, I would use this chip in the MBHP as well.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrygr Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232R.htmWould this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yes, but as mentioned above, the problem is that the port appears as COM interface under Windows, and not as MIDI interface. So, somebody would have to program a driver which redirects COM to MIDI, and (something I find really important), which allows multiple clients (e.g. MIOS Studio and your favourite MIDI sequencer) to access the MIDI interface the same time.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrygr Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I saw this one from an old midi to com port DIY pagehttp://www.maxmidi.com/diy/serial/index.htmlI am not so hot on all of this, but I will try to get samples and see if I can work it out!!The key point here is "try"!!Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiocommander Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 So, somebody would have to program a driver which redirects COM to MIDI, and (something I find really important), which allows multiple clientsI think the MIDI support/focus is one of the great advantages of MBHP! Why? Because the need for device drivers sucks – regarding the "problem" of different operating systems. This way you just need a midi-device (which most of us have anyway!) and you're done!There are much more *nix-Systems around here than one would expect at the first sight :)Cheers,Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intellijel Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Btw.: I like the idea that they use the FT232 as a USB interface which makes the adaption to PCs much easier; if a USB driver for COM->MIDI (multiclient capable of course!) would exist, I would use this chip in the MBHP as well.Actually I think there is a way:http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1161023163;start=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Yes, old link... but this solution isn't multi client capable.However, since so many people asked for a FT232 based solution in the past, and refered to documentation which exactly explains how it works, but nobody ever did the step to try it for MBHP, I will do the work for you... in ca. 1..2 weeksBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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