audioworld Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 has anyone ever tried using a SpaceNAvigator as a musical instrument interface???http://www.3dconnexion.com/It seems this would be a perfect device for soundbending, filtersweeps or more complex parameter control. They have a quite helpful and active developer forum and a SDK online, and the company resides near munich, germany:http://www.3dconnexion.com/forum/maybe we could even connect those encoders directly to MB digital inputs before they hit the USB bus....regards, karl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therezin Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Funnily enough I was contemplating doing what you suggest in reverse - I do a lot of 3D design work and was thinking of making something like this based on the MB platform, with Bome's midi translator at the other end turning the notes into keypresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioworld Posted June 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 therezin,I do not really get the point: you want to control 3D-models from your MIDI keyboard?I klicked around on the 3DC website and they have this very nice controller with assignable buttons and a LCD display:http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/3a4b.phpin the forums there are detailed descriptions how to adress the LCD directly:http://www.3dconnexion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1095mhhh, very slick hardware... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therezin Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 therezin,I do not really get the point: you want to control 3D-models from your MIDI keyboard?Not quite - I was going to make a kind of joystick/encoder assembly that would be MB-based, to control the positioning of 3D stuff more effectively than using a mouse and keyboard. It basically was going to consist of an encoder mounted on a joystick, with some other shortcut buttons around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioworld Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ok, I understand the controller part now,but how would you route the MIDI out from MB into the 3D application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming_Rabbit Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 but how would you route the MIDI out from MB into the 3D application?... :o ;)... with Bome's midi translator at the other end turning the notes into keypresses.Greets, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioworld Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 OK, thanks,now I got it (me telling me: read before type!..----)))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Anyone considered this as a possible "joystick" for a MB.. i use the spacepilot to control solidworks and other 3d apps. and its a dream. smooth motion - flawless - you can get just the knob for about $50.. tilts forward, back, left and right.. pushes up and down.. twists clockwise and counter.is this worth hacking- would it work?http://www.3dconnexion.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 50 bucks? Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Where?http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-SpaceNavigator-3D-Navigation-3DX-700029/dp/B000LB41BMI talked a co-worker into getting one of these and it is really hefty and just as good as my $400 version.This one might be interesting too with buttons all around the side... http://www.amazon.com/3D-Connexion-132100002-3Dconnexion-SpaceTraveler/dp/B000BU6Y68/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=I love logitech products ;DSince using I cant believe anyone does 3d without this. In my hand 8 hours a day. I want to see implemented into a MB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 It's a great device, also works in Google Earth and other apps.What about the original idea of connecting it to a PIC? Can those PICs with a USB interface act as a USB host?Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/tilted/ Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 damn those are hot!has anyone ever tried using a SpaceNAvigator as a musical instrument interface???Nope, but I sure am interested!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Yeh USD$52 plus shipping etc means it'll be closer to $70 but that's still al ot less than the $300 they used to go for...So, is the idea to hack it and make it a standalone midi device, or just to use software to send midi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yeh USD$52 plus shipping etc means it'll be closer to $70 but that's still al ot less than the $300 they used to go for...the ideaI would like to see the base removed and just have it from the led ring up sticking out of a MB... at this point I cant be picky about the manner in which it gets used as i do not yet have the skills to integrate it myself in any way.Ohhh i forgot to mention that in addition to tilting f, b, l, r it also pushes in these directions as well, but you dont even have to think about it when you are using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 In a university project we used the Space Navigator as an input device for moving through a virtual world (instead of using the mouse or computer keyboard). The many degrees of freedom that the Space Navigator offers can actually make your life there more difficult, because you end up tilting and rotating if you do not have sufficient training to develop your minute motor activity the way the Space Navigator demands it. Seen this way, the Space Navigator is just like any other musical instrument that needs a certain amount of training to be mastered.Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 maybe its just me but after setting it up and using for about 5 min i never gave it another thought. Its like my part on screen goes where ever i think it to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yes, the screen is 2D, so you are reducing the number of degrees of freedom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I see what you are saying now - i had not read your post carefully.I guess it would also take some practice if all these controls were assigned to different parameters or effects ect... ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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