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Hm, very interesting! As I'm waiting for the final parts (box enclosure) for my mbox sequencer, I have 3 questions to satisfy my curiosity in this new sequencer extension development: 1) Does the pattern selection mode mean that it is possible to select/activate patterns from the pattern bank in real time in a similar way as we do it in ableton scene view? I mean, does 16x16 matrix in this mode represents 16x16 pattern slots from bank and patterns can be played/activated with those buttons? 2) Does "communicates with MBSEQ via MIDI" mean through midi cable or this communication is done via one of MBSEQ motherboards digital I/O interfaces? In my sequencer all seem occupied with DIN, DOUT, Midi and SD card. :unsure: 3) I already had the same idea about SparkFun's rubberized led buttons. Expensive? Maybe, but not so much taking in account the fact that in my opinion there are not any competitive alternatives on the market for midibox sequencer (even genoqs, which is really expensive, doesn't convince me enough). Also my sequencer version is not cheep either with omron dual led switches and Reichelt LCDs and custom silk printed aluminium panel - most expensive parts :) So for me SparkFun's seems optimal solution - just the question - is those button sets compatible with the 'The BLM firmware is running on a dedicated PIC based core module'? Best regards Gunars

Absolutely amazing midibox demo! Somehow I didn't notice this video before, so thanks for bringing up this tread :thumbsup:

Ok, thanks. That's fine :) I completely accept that, if such update is possible, it is not in priority list. Also note that I put this quick reference of midibox sequencer functions on http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midibox_seq_quick_reference so this tread can be locked I suppose. Best regards Gunars

Hello Thorsten, Thanks a lot for your valuable comments! I will double check the firmware version next week and check all the issues I experienced. I believe that they are mostly caused by my novice status/lack of knowledge :) Since I do not know how to deal with wiki, I have to explore that first. I hope to do that tomorrow or next week. I hope that I will have enclosure box completely ready in two weeks so I will be able to post some photos as well. Best regards Gunars PS yes, I changed MBSEQ_HW.V4 file significantly since I have custom single sided I/O board, not the one designed by Wilba. I personally think that instant access to Undo function could be more useful than instant access to Clear function. Actually I had F1 unused so most appropriate from all sequencer functions to me seems Undo, but I just put Clear there, because Copy and Paste buttons are near on my board :) Perhaps we need a poll to make sure what others think about quickly accessible Undo?

Hello Midiboxers! I recently went through all (or most) :logik: midibox sequencer options and prepared a quick reference (crib) - list of functions and options. I don't know if anyone else will find this useful, but I personally always prefer studying reference rather than userguide. Now new quick reference version is vaialable on http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/ so it can be updated by others. Also I marked some my comments with red. If anyone can explain them or provide solution - your input is welcome.) Best regards Gunars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MB SEQ functions - quick reference Detailed info for options and functions of course is always available at http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq_manual_m.html # Function Description Options Dedicated button functions (can differ depending on hardware panel layout and MBSEQ_HW.V4 file) 1 Pattern 1,2,3,4 Select pattern/track group (G1, G2, G3, G4) 2 Track 1,2,3,4 Select track within track group (T1, T2, T3, T4) - 16 tracks total 3 Trigger layer A,B,C Select trigger layer A and B (holding C allows to select others) Gate | Acc | Roll | Glide | Skip | R.G - random gate | R.V - random value | No FX Still not clear to me how to access for editing the values for selected trigger layer, I can only access parameter layer values 4 Parameter layer A,B,C Select parameter layer A and B (C switches between C & D) Default: Note | Vel | Length | Roll (also CC, Pitch, Prob, Delay can be added via trigger selection menu) 5 Step View View and select steps if more than 16 are used 1...16 | 17...32 | ...etc 6 Pattern Select pattern/track group G1, G2, G3, G4 from SD memory location 7 Song Select song parameters Song # | Position | Action (Stop, x1..x16, Jump Pos, Jump Song, Mixer, Tempo, Mutes) |||| Select patterns G1,G2,G3,G4 8 Edit Enter edit mode to edit parameter and trigger layer steps 9 Mute Quickly mute/unmute tracks 1...16 10 Solo Solo current track 11 <- | -> (Left | Right) Move cursor position Left doesn't work in most cases :( Left works when selecting trigger layers in other menus only right seems working 12 + | - (Inc | Dec) Same as jog dial encoder - increases/decreases the current value 13 Exit Quickly exit to top menu 14 Select (Press&Hold) Select steps to be controlled by All function 15 All Edit all selected steps according to Select function 16 Copy Copy steps from 1 (?) to selected # Is there a way to select from which step to copy? 17 Paste Paste copied steps Is there a way to select starting from which step to paste? 18 F1 (Clear) (Press&Hold) to clear selected track I think it would be more useful if Undo could be assigned to this in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file, but seems it is not possible 19 F2 (Select track) (Press&Hold) to select track from 1...16 20 F3 (Select parameter layer) (Press&Hold) to select parameter layer A,B,C,D etc 21 F4 (Select trigger layer) (Press&Hold) to select/assign (?) trigger layer 1...8 22 Rec Opens record menu Track # | Record (Live, Step) | Mode (Mono, Poly) | AStart (on, off) | Step # | TglGate |||| Port # | Chn # 23 << Rewind (active only in song mode) 24 Stop Stops playback and resets position to beginning 25 Play Starts playback of patterns/song 26 Pause Halts playback 27 >> Forward (active only in song mode) 28 Metronome Toggles metronome on/off 29 Fast Activates Fast mode for quicker value selection with encoders Speed options for Fast can be changed in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file 30 Scrub (Press&Hold) + jog wheel allows dynamic changing of actual position Menu functions 31 Menu+Scrub Toggles loop mode on/off 32 Menu+GP1 (Mixer) Opens mixer view for 16 tracks (12 pages can be switched with +/-) Midi port | Midi channel | Prog change | Volume | Panorama | Reverb | Chorus | CC1 | CC2 | CC3 | CC4 Changing midi channel didn't work (tried just once hovever); Not clear how to change/select new map; pages 8 to 12 holds CC1=128,CC2=128,CC3=16,CC4=50 not clear how this works and how to change assignment to other CC numbers it looks like only theese CC messages can be remaped? 33 Menu+GP2 (Event) [*] Opens track setup editor [*] Track # | Type (Note, Chord, CC, Drum) | Step # | ParL # | TrgL # | Port # | Chn # | Edit Name 34 Menu+GP3 (Mode) [*] Opens track mode editor [*] Track # | Track on/off | Normal, Transpose, Arpeggiator |||| Hold (on, off) | Sort (on, off) | Restart (on, off) | Scale (on, off) | Sustain (on, off) 35 Menu+GP4 (Direction) [*] Opens track playback direction editor [*] Track # | Select playback mode (Forward | Backward | PingPong | Pendulum | Rand.Dir | Rand.Step | Rand.D+S) |||| Fwd # | Back # | Replay # | Repeat # | Skip # | Itv # | SyncM (yes, no) 36 Menu+GP5 (Divider) [*] Opens track clock divider setup editor [*] Track # | Clock # | Divider (normal, triplet) | Sync to Measure (on, off) |||| Timebase selector (1,2,4,8 ...etc) 37 Menu+GP6 (Length) [*] Opens track length editor [*] Track # | Length # | Loop # |||| Quick length selection (4,8,16 etc) 38 Menu+GP7 (Transpose) [*] Opens track transpose editor [*] Track # | Transpose selector (-7 oct ... +7 oct) | (-7 sem ... +7 sem) 39 Menu+GP8 (Groove) [*] Opens track groove editor [*] Track # | Groove style (off, shuffle ... etc) | Intensity # |||| Step # | Dly # | Len # | Vel # | Num Steps # 40 Menu+GP9 (Trigger) [*] Opens track trigger layer selection menu [*] Track # | Gate | Acc | Roll | Glide | Skip | R.G | R.V | No FX 41 Menu+GP10 (FX) [*] Opens FX editor [*] Local (Echo, Hum, Limit, LFO) |||| Global (Loop, Scale) [*] Echo (Track # | Repeats # | Delay # | Vel.Lev # |||| FB Velocity % | Note # | Gatelen % | Tcks %) [*] Hum (Track # | Intensity # | Note [on, off] | Vel/CC [on, off] | Length [on, off]) [*] Limit (Track # | Lower # | Upper #) [*] LFO (Track # | Wave [off, sine ... etc] | Amp # | Phs % | Steps # | Rst # | OneShot [on, off] |||| [*] Note ([on, off] | Vel [on, off] | Len [on, off] | CC [on, off] | ExtraCC# | Offs # | PPQN #) [*] Loop (Mode [all tracks / step view ...etc] | Offset # | Steps # | Loop [on, off]) [*] Scale (Control [global, G1, G2 ...etc] | Root [Keyb, C ...etc] | Selected scale [major, minor ...etc] 42 Menu+GP11 (ManualTrigger) [*] Manualy triggers steps, (Press&Hold)+Select for sync to measure [*] Not clear how to operate this function, what selected tracks in uper row of LCD mean and how to change them 43 Menu+GP12 (Morph) [*] Opens track morphing setup [*] Track # | Mode (on, off) | Dst.Range # | Value # |||| Morphing control (also by CC1) 44 Menu+GP13 (BPM) [*] Opens BPM settings editor [*] Mode (Auto, Slave, Master) | Preset # | Tempo # | Ramp #s | Fire Preset | Preset Page |||| MClk (USB1 etc) | In (?) | Out (?) | Din PPQN # | Ext.Restart | Tap Tempo [*] Wasn't able to change valuses for In and Out, maybe some other settings have to be changed 45 Menu+GP14 (Save) [*] Opens save menu [*] Group # | Location # | Target # | Save |||| Category | Label 46 Menu+GP15 (Midi) [*] Opens midi setup editor [*] Transpose and arp (Port # | Chn # | T/A Split [on, off] | Midd.Note # | Reset Stcks) [*] Section Control (Port # | Chn # | G1 # | G2 # | G3 # | G4 # | Fwd [port] | Reset Stcks) [*] Midi Router (Node # | In [port)] | Chn # | Out [port] | Chn # | Default Port) [*] Misc (BLM_Scalar port [on, off] | Midi Monitor) 47 Menu+GP16 (Sysex) [*] Sysex directory not found on card [*] Not all required folders are created with disk format - midi folder was also missing Utility functions 48 Utility+GP1 (Track select) [*] Select active track 49 Utility+GP2 (Copy) [*] Copy steps from 1 to selected # 50 Utility+GP3 (Paste) [*] Paste copied steps 51 Utility+GP4 (Clear) [*] Clear selected track (No options - Wipes the track instantly!!!) 52 Utility+GP5 (Move) [*] Moves some steps (copy and paste together) [*] Is there a way to select step range 53 Utility+GP6 (Scroll) [*] Scrolls the steps across 54 Utility+GP7 (Random) [*] Generates random events [*] Track # | Generate | Clr | Util | Undo |||| LayerA # | LayerB # | LayerC # | TrgA # | Trg B # | Trg C # 55 Utility+GP8 (Undo) [*] Undoes last operation 56 Utility+GP9 (Save) [*] Opens save menu [*] Group # | Location # | Target # | Save |||| Category | Label [*] Not sure about location - is it like copying from one momory location to other? 57 Utility+GP10 (Record) [*] Opens record menu [*] Track # | Record (Live, Step) | Mode (Mono, Poly) | AStart (on, off) | Step # | TglGate |||| Port # | Chn # 58 Utility+GP11 (Mixer) [*] Opens mixer view for 16 tracks (12 pages can be switched with +/-) [*] Midi port | Midi channel | Prog change | Volume | Panorama | Reverb | Chorus | CC1 | CC2 | CC3 | CC4 59 Utility+GP12 (Options) [*] Opens options menu [*] Measure # | Pattern # | SyncChange (on, off) | Paste/Clr steps |||| Remote (auto, client, server) | ID # | Port # | Request connection (no) 60 Utility+GP13 (Port Mute) [*] Allows muting of output ports [*] Def | USB1 | USB2 ...... AOUT | Bus1 | Bus2 61 Utility+GP14 (Disk) [*] Opens disk menu [*] MSD USB (disabled, enabled[Pres&Hold]) | Midi files (import, export, play) 62 Utility+GP15 (Mute) [*] Quick mute of all tracks/channels 63 Utility+GP16 (UnMute) [*] Quick unmute of all tracks/channels =====================================================

Wow that sounds very tempting :) something like a midi atomizer. Perhaps with this the extended loop control from midi keyboard input could be implemented as well. I thought that it could be something like that - you define a key range which only changes loop range (steps) for example: with pressing any two keys within this defined range on keyboard creates global loop between certain amount of steps: C1 and C1# loops single step, C1 and D1 loops between two steps from current position and so on - perhaps this could be usefull if this releases GP buttons for other tasks.

BTW here is comparison chart of abailable/available soon touchpad devices Best regards Gunars

Hello Thorsten! Thanks a lot for your answers. I found the problem. It red HW file correctly, but pin order had to be reversed. Form this pdf schematic I learned that stand alone pin is 0, but in fact it is 7. but GP LEDs worked correctly because from this pdf schematic I learned that highest GP number goes to lowest pin. Ironically in reversed order my BPM led setting coincided with default setting - there was a confusion. OK I'll keep in mind that. Currently LEDs do no flicker. In fact I planed separate lines for Dins and Douts, but due shortage of 0.5mm wires I changed my plans and soldered them in mixed way - so my wires are really as short as possible :). I hope to correct this if I get coloured 0.5 mm wires, which are hard to find here in Latvia (mailorder only seem to sell in rolls). So my sequencer is up and running and now I have some questions about its functionality: 1) Parameter Layer C is nearly always active (led is lit) in edit mode but Trigger C is not - is this correct and, if not, could it be relater to mixed RC/SC din/dout soldering or something else in HW file. 2) How do you edit trigger layer settings? Although I can change trigger layers in upper line of display, the lower display line always show parameter layers so I can access only parameter layers for editing. 3) Roll parameter is in both Trigger layer and Parameter layer settings - is it the same thing just accessible in two ways? 4) left/right buttons work differently in different pages - for example, when selecting trigger layers C..D..E... both buttons work as intended left moves cursor left, right moves right, but in edit mode (when editing steps) I can only advance to next step with right button (left is inactive) 5) I can change midi channel routing for track in track settings, but in mixer page changing midi channel number didn't changed channel routing is that intended for incoming midi as in Menu/Midi/Routing page? That's all so far. I had not time to dwell any deep in to this wonderful beast yet (just made this little sunday night test jam :) - mbox is driving m3 synth ~20mb flashvideo) and need to build a normal case for it first. Thank you once again for developing this fantastic midibox projects! Best regards Gunars

Hello there! It looks like a busy day today :) Great news about ipad/midiboxing - Thorsten, you are forcing me to think that I need an ipad :) in which i'm not interested otherwise :) But I think it has no other connections than wireless (its usb is for its cam only I suppose), how you think you will connect it to midibox - through PC? OK, down to topic Today I finally launched my mbox sequencer. It looks like main board functions OK - I uploaded os4.2 - sequencer restarted - screens are also functioning and it said it found SD card - buttons and encoders seem to work fine but the problem is with leds - only GP leds function as I intended, others behave odly despite I edited MBSEQ_HW.V4 file on SD card and then uploaded sequencer os hex file once again. for example: - in standard V4 config file it says LED_BEAT 1 7 - in my V4 config file it is LED_BEAT 1 0 however sequencer still uses as it is written into standard file and beat led functions on SR 1 pin 7 not on SR 1 pin 0 as I stated in my config file, so it looks like it ignores my led settings (except GP which are fine) and used default ones. Is this a software problem, or my settings file problem, or hardware problem? My Din/Dout board is soldered as follows: 1. SI and SO are chained accordingly 2. RC and SC has two branches: A is connected to In2 and In5,Out3 (and there are two 100pF caps in the branch between SC and VS, and RC and vs) B is connected to In1,Out2 and Out1 and In3 and In4 and In7,Out4,In6 and In8,Out5 and Out6 and In9 and In10,Out7,In11 and Out8,In12 (and there are two 100pF caps in the branch between SC and VS, and RC and vs) 3. there is polarized 100uF cap between VS and VD, 4. pins for DOUT are soldered as follows: SR1 0 - BPM (responds to forward) SR1 1 - fast (responds to pause) SR1 2 - loop (?) SR1 3 - rew (responds to pattern) SR1 4 - stop (responds to rewind) SR1 5 - play (responds to loop) SR1 6 - pause (responds to parameterA/C) SR1 7 - fwd (responds ?) SR2 0..7 - GP right (work fine) SR3 0..7 - GP right dual colour (work fine) SR4 0..7 - GP left (work fine) SR5 0..7 - GP left dual colour (work fine) SR6 0 - not used SR6 1 - not used SR6 2 - record (responds to stop) SR6 3 - all (responds to song) SR6 4 - song (responds ?) SR6 5 - pattern (responds ?) SR6 6 - mute (responds ?) SR6 7 - solo (responds ?) SR7 0 - edit (responds to parameterB/C SR7 1 - step (also responds to parameterB/C) SR7 2 - triggerA (responds ?) SR7 3 - triggerB (responds ?) SR7 4 - triggerC (responds ?) SR7 5 - parameterA (responds ?) SR7 6 - parameterB (responds ?) SR7 7 - parameterC (responds ?) SR8 0 - track4 (responds to gropup1) SR8 1 - track3 (responds to gropup2) SR8 2 - track2 (responds to gropup3) SR8 3 - track1 (responds to gropup4) SR8 4 - group4 (responds to track1) SR8 5 - group3 (responds to track2) SR8 6 - group2 (responds to track3) SR8 7 - group1 (responds to track4) My configuration file is attached (zippped) And yet another issue My laptop WinXP finds sequencer SD via USB and mounts it, but it says it can not open this SD card. When I remove it and open on PC with card reader windows opens it fine. Is this a windows problem or sequencer? Best regards, Gunars MBSEQ_HW.zip

Hi Janis, and thanks a lot for replay! Thats is clear now. Then I need to squeeze them among wires:) Gunars

Hello electronics gurus! I am nearly done with soldering my midibox seq. Only still to solder are 20 capacitors between VS and VD on my version of integrated in/out PCB (I have 8 out shift registers and 12 in shift registers so 20 total). It my look a funny question for experienced, but should these 20 100nF capacitors be placed near shift register as documented here and here and also how it is implemented in SmashTV in/out kits and wilba PCB version or perhaps I can make a parallel array of them anywhere in the in/out chain between VD (+5V) and VS (ground) or, if I can make an array, perhaps I can replace them all with appropriate single capacitor. What should be appropriate value then for this single capacitor for 20 shift registers? Also dout schematic shows additional polarized 100 uF (micro?) capacitor between VD and VS (It is not showed in Din schematic although both they share same VD and VS), so I guess I should add this one too in parallel with those 20 100nF or their single replacement? And also 100pF terminators are for din and dout - so four in total? And yet another question. This schematic says that additional 1kOhm resistor is required between SC and VD, however this one doesn't mention this. Does it mean this resistor is required only in versions older than 4 and starting from version 4 it is not required anymore? Best regards Gunars

Thanks for replays Thorsten and Wilba! Yes, looks quite many seqs have hatched this spring, but mine is still to nest - that's it... Led for loop is already intended in my design, but about follow I must explore more. When I first replied I meant dual led for step view, but I now see that probably it is really not a priority. On the other hand color-changing beat led also sounds interesting, but as I understand the software must be changed to support this. Anyway I can always leave blank those two pins for some updated features. Have guys a nice holydays with your machines or without :) Gunars

Amazing! it is third update since January when I started collecting my seq pats (I hope I'll finish it this month). Only I'd like to note that in downloads page I still see v18. I had to hack link changing it manually to download v19 Best regards and one beer from me Gunars

From what I have red step led can have two colour option, I just don't know how to configure this two-colour option in configuration file. I think it mentions only two colour option for 16 GP leds. I built my own simplified (single sided) in/out pcb since I missed wilba pcb bulk order and I have two free pins on third out SR, so I also would like to use this step led dual colour option if possible. Can anyone comment how to configure this in MBSEQ_HW.V4? Also while I'm waiting for 1/8w 220 ohm resistors (I suppose I can use them since led current is around 13 mA and I don't have room in my pcb version for resistor arrays from Smash TV kit) to complete parts collection I have a question - for what purpose are the diodes in wilba pcb? Smash TV in/out kits don't have diodes and they aren't also found in sequencer in/out pdf layouts. Best regards, Gunars.

Well, I don't know how you can count my opinion (I'm waiting for my sequencer parts from smashtv since January so I still don't have a real machine at my hands), but from what I have read about MBox sequencer I think that 256 patterns (4x64) per session with the condition that it is possible instantly to switch between sessions is really ok. On the other hand 20 seconds or 30 seconds for initializing session seems to me not much difference and I can't imagine why one should run sequencer while creating/cloning session. Best regards gj

Maybe try here http://uk.farnell.com/alps/ec12e2424407/encoder-vertical-24-det-24ppr-sw/dp/1520813 (you can choose localized farnell pages for many countries) Unfortunately I discovered farnell only after I got most parts from other suppliers listed on uCApps.de (in many cases parts where out of stock voti.nl for example and none of suppliers listed on uCApps.de wasn't able to supply all required parts at once). I don't know why farnell was not mentioned in uCApps.de (maybe I just sadly missed it), but it shipped really fast at very competitive shipping rates - good service and have wide range of parts. gj

It looks that you now have to wait anyway because SmashTV orders are also suck due to out of stock parts. Actually parts problems are the biggest challenge in building any device - lot of links on http://ucapps.de and also this forum are pointing to not available anymore parts. Since I missed small wilba pcb bulk order, I decided to do on my own, but it looks until march it still wont be possible to move any further. BTW anyone can comment on shift register ground wiring? Is it possible to have single ground/vss wire for all shift registers for buttons and leds in Din and Dout boards (link documented in this file http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_dinx4_32buttons.pdf ) or each shift register button/led set has to have its own (as documented in this file http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_v4_dout.pdf )? Also can I delete or obviously better comment with preceding # not used lines in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file - for example analogue out section or lines like these LED_GROUP1 11 0 LED_GROUP2 11 2 LED_GROUP3 11 4 LED_GROUP4 11 6 LED_TRG_LAYER_A 0 0 LED_TRG_LAYER_B 0 1 LED_TRG_LAYER_C 0 2

Hi TK This is really awesome! Sorry, I have missed that changelog and complete remote control example video. It explains a lot. Now I'm just waiting for components and eager to move on with construction process :) Thank you! Best regards, Gunars

Hi Gridracer Thanks for your valuable comments! huh MBSEQ_HW.V4 file - yet another cool thing about midibox SEQ have a lot to study again now :) MIDI_REMOTE - no this is not exactly what I meant this is just a mirror of MidiboxSEQ control panel buttons. I meant it would be cool if it were possible to control this: "Jump Pos: sequencer jumps to the specified position - allows to set loop points" from midi keyboard sending a note message or/and this "Back to Phrase Mode: select the "Position" item by pushing Layer button B. By pushing a GP button, the sequencer will execute the action defined at song position A1, B1, C1..P1 (16 possible actions)." or/and mute/unmute status of a track. Ok I have quite lot to learn first before I qualify for suggesting something :) Kind regards Gunars

hm, looks fantastic, but where you get those additional buttons? where they are connected? does this needs additional components and modification of software?

Hi! The more I read about MidiBox SEQ the more I'm fascinated of it :) . It looks very cleverly designed - simply amazing! Unfortunately it looks like I have missed recent small bulk order (so I just ordered main components from Smash TV). Obviously I have to do all on my own with standard vectorboard for buttons and leds instead of Wilba designed PCB. This arises a question about difference between V3 and V4. 1) It looks like Wilba design of V4 has 58 buttons instead of standard 44 of V3. I was able to find only how to connect 44 buttons ( http://ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_v4_din.pdf ) so my first question is where other 14 buttons go in this schematic? 2) Wilba version also mentions bicolour leds. Can they be connected in same way as shown there http://ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_v4_dout.pdf 3) why there are two utility buttons? Also after reading MenuPages manual it was not clear to me what functionality is hidden under Fast button - it is just mentioned in the mixer page section with no functionality explained. I understand that under F1...F4 there are shortcuts to access specific deeper pages quickly? 4) As I said I'm still amazed by immense functionality of this device - it look it does almost everything (kind a hardware ableton) what I can imagine, except perhaps one thing (maybe I simply haven't found that so far). Is there a way to trigger patterns/pattern groups from midi keyboard sending note numbers. Lets say I reserve lower octave for triggering of pattern groups (or perhaps muting/unmuting tracks) or switching song positions so that C1 for example triggers (toggle/hold) Group1 etc or jumps to specific position of song C1 position 1, D1 position 2 and so on. Also I guess I will have questions about midi implementation chart - it was not very clear to me whether device accepts only sysex or cc or both. There was an example B0 62 31 63 02 06 0F - which is a parameter part of this sysex message and which is a value part (changing)? BTW is there a difference between pattern group and TrackGroup or that is the same thing just different names. Thanks for your support!

oh, it is a honour to hear from a midibox guru and thank you guys - you are reeaally helpful! If it is possible to hop in the Wilba bulk order train within reasonable amount of time, I'd love to. Obviously I have to contact him PM? Otherwise I will have to order everything myself. I live in Latvia, so most convenient electronics mailorder company in my area perhaps is Elfa - www.elfa.se any German company also would be OK, since we in Latvia have convenient direct shipping service from Germany. BankSticks are still mentioned on the bottom of this page http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq_manual_hw.html in hardware costs section table. Yes I would definitely like to have extra midi outs, since it is a hardware project! Midi is missing in most interesting recent commercial developments such Akai APC40, Novation Launchpad so they can not be used stand alone without computer :( . By now I use Ableton and Catanya arpeggiator from 7 Aliens what is a software solution - but I would like to switch to hardware as much as possible and I see that midibox seq is good companion for virus synth which I acquired recently and in paralel it could drive also my Korg X50 which has brilliant polyphonic arpeggiator-step sequencer but unfortunately has only 8 slots for user patterns, what is a pity :( Best regards, Gunars

Hello, and thanks for reply! It is still pretty complicated :) Wilba's MB-Seq version definitely look neat, but I still don't understand how I can benefit from that or participate. Also it looks that bulk order project has stuck for a year now. Obviously midibox SEQ is only form all midi box projects in which I am really interested. So from what I have read for past few hours I understand that to build midibox SEQ V4 I need to order the following: 1) ONE "MIDIbox SEQ V3 kit" Art.-Nr.: Set-009 from mikes-elektronikseite.de (60Eur) => includes 1 x MBHP_CORE, 3 x MBHP_DINX4, 1 x MBHP_DOUTX4, 1 x MBHP_IIC-midimodule without PIC and throw away MBHP_CORE parts since they are not used in V4 2) THREE extra "MBHP_IIC-midimodule" Art.-Nr.: Kit-007 from mikes-elektronikseite.de (13.30Eur each) if I want to have 4 midi outs 3) ONE "Core32 parts kit" #76 from avishowtech.com (SmashTV) (20usd) 4) ONE "Core32 Module PCB With IC" #75 from avishowtech.com (SmashTV) (25.95usd) 5) TWO "LC Display 40x2 with backlight" Art.-Nr.: EC-006 from mikes-elektronikseite.de (28.50Eur each) 6) 44 buttons hopefully available at local electronics store :/ are there some special requirements? 7) 32 LEDs " LED 3mm St colour" === I'm afraid it's not enough to order - some more detailed parameters are required 8) 17 encoders detented rotary encoders D Shaft === it looks like they are sold out at Smash TV === any recommendations of alternatives? model number? 9) 16 Knobs - these are just plastic parts? 10) 1 datawheel - these are just plastic parts? 11) BankSticks ===== what is this and where it goes???!!! 12) SD card where it goes???!!! PSU - a have one already Case & panel - not a problem to custom order from composite aluminium panel at local laser cutters shop Software - can be downloaded thanks to TK :) (right?) Is there something still missing to build fully functional midibox SEQ V4 - please comment! Any recommendations to optimize orders? Best regards Gunars

Hello there. I just discovered this lovely midibox seq project and it looks to me something similar (a smaller hardware brother) to Sugarbytes Thesys soft sequencer - is this correct? If it is so, I'd be very interested to build one, but from what I read here, I'm still confused. 1) is there a complete parts list which are required to build fully functional MidiboxSEQ device or there are only just some hints on the bottom of this page? http://www.ucapps.de/index.html?page=midibox_seq_manual_m.html Although I used to solder cables and write some scripts in perl I'm actually not qualified to build schematics or programm microprocessors. Is there any chance for me to build such device without qualificatoin of electronics engineer? 2) I also checked this page http://www.mikes-elektronikseite.de/mshop_deutsch/k001u002s001.htm and found that they offer MidiboxSEQ V3 kit. Anyone is aware what is included in that kit and what is missing (should be found somewhere else). And also what is the difference between V3 and V4. Can V3 be upgraded to V4 and what is required then? Best regards gj