Duggle Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I was interested to read the WIKI article by Ilmenator on his BPM,Step#, and TPD combined PCB. I'd like to add some of these elements to my own seq. The BPM and Step# display hw settings are in the config file MBSEQ_HW.V4 looks straight forward. The Track Position Display section has config settings for 8x8 single LED. What is the state of the 16x8 Duo TPD from the software support aspect? Is it likely to be merged with the main firmware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 There is a dirty hack available (PM me) that provides the original functionality of Hawkeye's 8x8 LED matrix approach, but for the 8x16 version as on my TPD module. You get to select the color, but obviously there are many more possibilities for this kind of "display". Unfortunately, I am not a programmer, so I lack the skills to implement something that would be up to TK's coding... TK, however, has one of the TPD modules and might come up with a proper integration. Let's hear what he says :smile: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 If you wouldn´t mind, we could establish support for two or more variants of TPD: the old 8x8, which I am still using on my handwired SEQ and the new 16x8s, which all PCB owners (proud to have one, too ;-)) will be using. An additional entry in the hwconfig file might be: TPD_TYPE, which can be 1, 2, ... as there are many other configurations thinkable - e.g. different LED pattern orientations on the new PCB. In seq_tpd.c function SEQ_TPD_LED_Update(void), a conditional testing the configured TPD_TYPE then would execute the specific display code for each type. Don´t worry, it would not have large executable size impact on the sequencer binary, the current binary code for the 8x8 TPD is probably around 60 bytes :). Many greets, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'd love to see a virtual memory area mapped to the shift registers that drive the duo LED matrix. Any display functionality would then be as simple as poking the respective bits (8x16 duo LED matrix = 256 bits), something that my poor brain is much better at than looping through rows and columns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggle Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I got my parts for the displays, so I'll integrate and merge the code in each release until a more permanent feature is added. ilmenator, I'll PM you my request for code, thx!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Code sent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggle Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Got code! :frantics: Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 There is good news ahead, I got my hands on a pre-release that is awesome - TK rulez!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 :smile: Has anybody already created a Ponoko case for the standalone-unit? Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hi Thorsten, looking awesome, and very nice, that you support it! :) Schrab created a fine case: Many greets! Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 There is a frontpanel file I created, over in the Wiki. I had my panel lasercut at Formulor.de, I think Schrab used the same file for his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes, they are the same - sorry for not giving proper credit! It is looking very good! :) Many greets, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojjelito Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 It's like a little nasty and fun auto-locator remote for the big MBseq. Must test this with mine :frantics: Somehow the actual LED matrix reminds me of the good old WOPR which makes this an essential addon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 There is a frontpanel file I created, over in the Wiki. I had my panel lasercut at Formulor.de, I think Schrab used the same file for his. I took your file, imported it into Libre Office (because I don't own other suitable software for the Mac), added a frame around the frontpanel, changed black to red colour, exported to .svg and tried to submit it at Formular (and also Ponoko) - in both cases I get the error message, that the .svg file contains wrong colours. So, I copy&pasted the frontpanel components it into a new document, exported to .svg and submitted again - now it complains about lines which are thicker than allowed. Has anybody experiences with Ponoko or Formulor templates created with Libre Office or similar open source software which is available for MacOS? Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojjelito Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Inkscape still works under OSX but you'll need to set up XQuartz as the standard Apple X-Windows server has been removed. Inkscape has worked for me and others in the past at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I took your file, imported it into Libre Office (because I don't own other suitable software for the Mac), added a frame around the frontpanel, changed black to red colour, exported to .svg and tried to submit it at Formular (and also Ponoko) - in both cases I get the error message, that the .svg file contains wrong colours. I don't have any experience on a Mac, but I would guess that the RGB values are not what Formulor expects. There is an overview on the required RGB values here. Maybe that already does the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Inkscape doesn't work correctly at my side, the GUI elements are not correctly displayed (I'm using the latest XQuartz version) In Libre Office, I've ensured that the correct RGB values are used. Ilmenator, could you please send me the exact file you've used during your Formulor order? I would like to doublecheck, if I'm able to convert this one with Libre Office Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 You have mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Finally I got it working and ordered the panels :) Solution: - I'm using Inkscape under Linux (running in a virtual box) - Ilmentator sent me a .svg file - this file has to be modified with a text editor, otherwise Inkscape can't load it: remove xmlns="&ns_svg;" - do the required modifications (frame around the elements & create a bottom panel) - upload the new .svg to Formulor Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojjelito Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) Great news! This is on my to-do list, the poor thing will look naked otherwise. Care to share the new file? Best, Johan Edited November 30, 2013 by jojjelito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I will share it in the Wiki once I got the panels from Formulor. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 The .svg files are now available at the Wiki page: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=tpd_pcb First I ordered black panels, but I made an error: I forgot to mirror the backpanel, so that the clean side is at the bottom (and not in the case): This is fixed this in the published .svg Another "imperfection" of the black version are the missing transparent windows for LED matrix and digits. I've no experience how to design them properly, therefore I created a complete transparent version, which is part of the .zip file as well And which I'm finally using by myself: As you can see, it's very important to wait for the frontpanel before soldering the 4 LEDs, so that they are fitting into the case. I haven't done this, and unfortunately also shortened the legs - I have to solder new LEDs to fix this. Anyhow, here the good news: I've a free christmas giveaway! :smile: If somebody is interested on the flawed black panels, then just send me a PM! Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Looking good with the transparent top panel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=FFW=> Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Hi there, while building the TPD as well, i decided that it should feature a "shade" because, you know... Vital in doing that, is finding the right "shade". Because, especially for the segment-displays, i found there is an issue with contrast when in daylight. Because the background of those segment-displays is grey and the activated segments are green, you can hardly see the green segments in favour of the grey background reflecting too much light. Crawling through the options available @ formulor.de (the german branch of ponoko, so the materials are available from them also) i found "mittelgrau, transparent" (with formulor) to be excactly what i was looking for. I have attached a picture for you to decide if you like it and the cutouts for the shades as .ai file (they match the frontpanel file available from ilmenator/TK. - thanks a bunch btw.) the .ai file: (there are cutouts for the displays also, i found them to be a little dark with it - but you can try for yourself) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/633384/seqv4_tpd_shade_cutouts.eps I hope you have a nice time around christmas! Best, Daniel Edited December 20, 2013 by =FFW=> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdiver Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Guys, I'm interested in building this box. Is this project in a closed testing phase right now? How will those of us that want to build it be able to get printed boards or the board files in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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