Nat

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I'm currently testing a commercial pad for midi and I must say having this on a midibox would be loads of fun. I personnaly think that touch surfaces are much more useful than faders, it take ups less space and let's you control more. Looking forward to seeing this....

Encoders might fit, but I doubt the pcbs will fit, you will have to remove the parts of the uc-16...

Where do you want to put the motorfaders ? If you plan on putting them in the UC-16, it is much too small, you'll have to remove the pots. It'll be less expensive to buy a metal casing and put motorfaders it it. The midibox pcbs aren't small either, big caps won't fit in the small uc16 case...

I would consider starting from scratch, the UC-16 is a big chunk of plastic and it'll cost you less to do something much better than that...

Basically what an arpeggiator will do is arpeggiate a chord you play. So let's say your arpeggitor is set to "Up" mode and is set to spawn 2 octaves, then if you hit the C chord (C E G), it will play those notes in a sequence at a certain predefined speed. So in 2 octaves it would play C E G C E G you can set it to up down then it will play C E G C E G C G E C G E

What yer a$$ guys, i'll catch up sooner or later :)

That's good, it'll force me to try understanding the code :)

Wow nice, would you mind explaining how it works Thorsten ? :) and thanks !!

Thanks Thorsten, But that won't work with Cubase since it doesn't send back the data ? EDIT : About the midi remote implementation of Cubase, it's worse than you can think, they totally broke the thing in SX 2 / Nuendo 2, you can't control pan or EQ anymore which is ridiculous...

www.cycling74.com It's a graphical programming interface for midi and audio, very powerful. I made the coolest beatbox I ever used during the weekend :)

I'll see what thorsten thinks about this, but in the event that the flaw comes from Cubase (which I think is the case) I'll write a nice app in Max to solve this problem, if your interested on having it please send me your config in private. If they can't do it then i'll DO IT MYSELF :p

If you select transmit, it will transmit only when you tweak something onscreen, not when you tweak the physical control...

To see if I get this well : If the leds are assigned to their normal mode (midi status off) If I press a button that is assigned to the mute on channel one, It will activate this mute in software and the LED assigned to that button will light up only while the button is being pressed down.  In this same mode, if I press the mute onscreen or have some automation triggering it, the LED on the surface won't react. Now, if the leds are assigned to midi status. If I press the button assigned to a mute, it will activate this mute, the led on the surface won't light up.  If if trigger the mute onscreen, it will light or unlight the LED. Am I right ?  I'm just trying to understand here, I'm not raving or asking for a new feature :) EDIT : I guess that if I am wrong in my previous statement, it will then work this way : If the controller is set to midi status mode,  if I press button 1 which is assigned to mute 1, the button will activate the mute and the sequencer will send this back to the controller which will light up the led.  Now if I press again, the controller will unmute the track and  the sequencer will send back a message to the controller to shut  the led.  If I click onscreen or have some automation, the led will follow the sate of the mute.  That's sounds more logical to me, in this case, the led is only controlled by midi messages coming from the sequencer. Sorry, this will eventually get clear in my head :) EDIT 3 : If I am right about my second statement, then Cubase won't be able to handle this. Cubase will only send messages to the controller when you toggle them onscreen. If I press a button on the controller, cubase won't send back the status of the button to the controller. I guess this is a software flaw ?

Wow nice, and in midi leds mode, if the button associated to the led sends the corresponding midi message, will the button led light up when pushed ? Edit : I'll try to make my question clearer. Let's say I want to control mutes in Logic or Cubase with the controller. Will the led light up/down if I activate/deactivate the mute onscreen, and will it also light up/down if I press the corresponding button on the surface ? Thanks

Try contacting your local branch of RS-Components. I had mine at the canadian branch.

And what is the default setting for leds/buttons when before using vmidibox ?

I think it's actually easier than that, however my box is not ready to test this. If each button on the surface is associated with a controller # and that max sends out the appropriate message for each button, I think the button should light up. I just need a confirmation by thorsten or someone who made this.

Hello, I am currently building a midibox64E. My box will feature 16 buttons with leds at the bottom to simulate beat boxes and pattern sequencers. I made myself a nice step sequencer in Max/MSP and I was wondering if it was possible to control the leds on my midibox. When I start a pattern the leds (onscreen) light up while going through the pattern. I'd like to know if it would be possible to link my max patch to the midibox and make the physical leds light up at the same time. I can send any midi message using max. Thanks, Nat

Wow, all is fantastic then :) Thanks TK :)

Oh I see, But If I use a bankstick do I still have acess to those 4 patterns ? (4 patterns is more than enough for me)

I don't understand the new limitation with ledrings, do you mean that you are limited to the 4 predifined patterns ?

Great job Thorsten ! I can't wait to make my midibox work ! I have a small question concerning the Midibox 64E. I know there were some limitations when using banksticks over internal memory with the old PIC design (I can't recall what they were though) Is this the same with the MB64E ? Thanks, Nat

Several people are interested in case someone cancels. It would be definately possible to order from the same source, however, I won't have the time until the summer to take care of that. If someone would be willing to make the transaction, message me in private and we'll try to manage something.

Thorsten, I just want to say how much I'm impressed with the midiboxes, there is no commerical surfaces that come close to what MIOS can do. Thanks for making all of this possible :)