Wilba

Locking your design to a single LED matrix part has some disadvantages, and not many advantages... you're building a custom PCB and panel so discrete LEDs are just as easy to solder on if using the panel holes to align them during soldering, and give you much more options, like any colour, or even dual colour, any spacing between LED rows/columns, etc.. You can even flatten the top of a 3mm or 5mm round LED if that's important to you ;D But you're building it for yourself, not for everyone to build a clone ;) so do what suits you, I'm just giving you an alternate point of view.

Thanks stryd... the Notepad++ homepage has this very interesting link: Sign a petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard which of course I did. ;)

I warned you! ;)

Yeah I'll cut it, but you'll have to do the wiring yourself ;) Here's what I meant by putting the matrix on the left: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wilba6581/MB-6582_frontpanel_ytsestef.pdf And here's the FPD file: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wilba6581/MB-6582_frontpanel_ytsestef.fpd The top-left corner matches the original MB-6582 panel, i.e. the corner of the "matrix" PCB aligns with the corner of the panel. Likewise, the "knobs" PCB will align with the bottom-right corner. However, it doesn't have to be aligned like that... you could add some extra panel space around the edge. This is just the absolute minimum panel size/layout you'll need, with all the holes in the right places. So, you want me to start cutting? ;D

C128... I tried to save you... but it was too late :'( mbSid:1, HyperSID: -1

One chip in a letter from Australia to anywhere is AU$2. Maybe with a bit of extra packing, AU$4. This is a lot cheaper than the price that ganchan was telling me they wanted for shipping one SpeakJet chip to Italy.

Install GPUTILS... double-click make.bat... Too easy! Long pathnames! Finally! Hooray! Uninstalling MBLAB IDE now... ;)

If you want it to be 42, I can make it happen ;)

Can the person who got these PCBs contact me so I can take them off the notification list and put them on the "official original revision 1 PCB owners list" hehehe ;D

1. You can't get him on our side. If he had any motivation to be on our side, he would not have bought something he knew was against our spirit. See his first post, the title of this thread, etc. He seemed to pre-empt our reaction to his illegally obtained MIDIbox from the start. 2. There's misplaced anger on both sides. He didn't bow down to your demands of turning to the good side to help defeat the evil blue lantern and now this thread is turning into a series of "what if" scenarios. In short, I don't care about what could have happened. I've already tried turning one of blue lantern's customers to the good side, it didn't work, and if the offer of a practically free MB-6582 can't get someone to help us then nothing will. 3. Blocking blue lantern's IP would do nothing. Can we now go back to pretending blue lantern doesn't exist? Or if you must, check out his latest auctions and take your bitchfest to the chat room.

I mean the OPL3s and SIDs came from the same supplier. I would not have bothered with an OPL3 bulk order otherwise. The customs checks are hard-core for quarantine, they're not so bad when it comes to duty, stuff under AU$1,000 is duty free I think... (well, I've never paid duty on goods valued around AU$500 ;) )

Fortune favours the bold... http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/wilba_opl3_bulk_order

The easiest way to do this would be to upload firmware that doesn't use a matrix for all the switches... i.e. "setup_8580" and then you only need to connect switches and one encoder directly to the JD1 and JD2 headers (on the right), no diodes required, pin mappings all match this diagram: http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid_cs/mbsid_v2_din_default.pdf Pay attention to the different encoder pinout for ALPS STEC16B, which is the same for the "Voti" encoders and the SoundWell encoders. You don't even need switches, you could solder one end of a wire to a ground pad and just touch the pads with the other end. Of course this gets really annoying really quickly ;)

The SIDs have arrived. I'll start sending invoices tonight.

The OPL3 chipsets have arrived. The YMF262 are in tubes but the YAC512 is on a reel! Individually sealed capsules of DAC goodness. This shipment sneaked past customs again... the supplier even put a fake invoice on the parcel without my knowledge, and hitching a ride with the SIDs brought the overall costs down... so they come to AU$10 per chipset (that's approximately 6.02 Euro or US$8.77), plus the AU$2 postage and PayPal fees on top of that. Just out of interest, I tried finding an old sound card with the FM chips, and this is the best I could do: link US$16 !!! hehehe ;D I'll start sending invoices tonight. Stay tuned.

Poor man's version: print out the panel design, stick to a bit of cardboard and put some knobs on it. You'll get a good idea of the ergonomics that way.

These people need to send through their orders NOW! kk74 /tilted/ NAS dr00rs Brother303 reboot geologic

What the... ? Doesn't everyone get notified by email when they get a PM? These people need to send through their orders NOW! i45one sonofdirt POLOSID Renepela raoulblues Polykobol fabioldr

I have sent PMs to people who were on the list and are now invited to send their orders through email. That includes you, Smithy.

Maybe I should be clearer... this PCB is not intended for anyone building an MB-6582, as it makes no sense to use it when the revised version will be available in the near future. ;) Maybe I should be even clearer... I am not giving this away to anyone unless I get to use my Dremel to cut it into bits. ;D

First I said: and then when I was able to edit the wiki again (after the forum downtime), I added to the top of the wiki page: and: Remarkably, these statements do not contradict each other. Your statement that "the order was still open" is not correct... this is not a bulk order that is open and closed... this is a sale. I am not collecting a whole bunch of orders from people and waiting two months to collect people's money... I see there's demand and I buy enough for the current demand. I don't want "email orders" from people not on the waiting list first, and not until I say "Yes, there are spares enough for your order now". Now to make things even clearer, people who were on the waiting list before I bought the SIDs have been removed from the waiting list, and the wiki now says: I expect there to be 34 spare after people who were on the waiting list send me their orders.

You can put your name at the end of the list. If there are enough spare, I can sell you SIDs from this order. There are about 34 spare at the moment.

hmmm... yeah it will work but I don't know exactly how easy or good it would be. I'm still not convinced that an external CS is that useful or worth the effort. You will be spending a lot of money to get a custom panel made, putting it in a case, doing all the wiring for a "step C" control surface, only to leave it detached when you're at a gig, when I would think you really would want those knobs to tweak the parameters. Proposing to use the MB-6582 control surface PCB is an interesting idea, and will save you a bit of time doing the same thing on prototyping board. Let's say hypothecially that I though it was a good idea ;) I would cut the PCB along the dividing line above the Osc and LFO sections and cut the mod matrix section from the LCD/menu section, then stick the mod matrix section to the left of Osc and Filter sections on a panel... There would be a little manual wiring to make it work. It would then become a fairly neat "external CS", which you could wire up to 3/4 of a DOUTx4 module and 1 1/4 DINx4 modules. Continuing on this hypothetical, I would donate a spare prototype control surface PCB (a spare one that's the same as the one in my MB-6582) since this is never going to be used in a future MB-6582 as it doesn't match the changes to the panel layout around the LCD/menu area (there aren't any SID or select buttons, or the SID L/R button LEDs) Yeah I'm speaking hypothecially because I still don't think it's a good idea to make an external CS, however, you seem determined to do so in the face of expert advice to the contrary ;) and it does give me an opportunity to give this PCB away to someone who will use it ;D

I am not a grumpy old man... if people want to email me they can, just not with the same questions which are answered in the forum. You don't have to be sorry. Being on the notification list is just for people's convenience, so I can email them things they might want to know (like when PCBs are ready, or when bulk orders are starting).

When the PCBs are ready for purchase, I will email everyone on the notification list and they can just buy them. I cannot transfer people's "pre-orders" because they are no pre-orders, just a notification list, which I've mentioned several times in several places, that to get on it, you just email me. http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,10302.msg77631.html#msg77631 Strangely, Smithy isn't on my list. How is that possible? :o FYI there's approximately 109 base PCBs wanted, 99 control surface PCBs.