Slorrin

I have read the entire thread, and caught up, enabling me to say, wholeheartedly, to put me down for 1 set of pannels, shipping to Toronto, Canada.!

Wilba! Please keep me in mind if you have more PCBs than orders... as I would like to buy a set from you.. obviously... also, what sids did you order? 6581? 6582? or 8580? I was about to buy 100 6581s (i have 60 8580s riht now) Can't find 6582 in the shenzhen market anywhere though :(

MBNET? What is this MBnet you speak of?! 4685... PIC4685? the world is changing too quickly!

about 6 months ago i was comissioned to write a rock opera. I have been basically shut away writing a rock opera for 6 months. However, i performed the workshop last week, testing 17 of the 29 potential songs. So i have a comfortable 4 month rest period to "re-arrange" things. So that's where i've been. I hadnt' realized MBsid 2.0 had been released.. blows my mind!

i said 78 in the other thread, but i meant 71. Wilba, approximately what did the parts cost to populate your PCB? I'm trying to budget for the fall..

Sorry to spam, leme see if i get this straight. PCB = 20$ PCB for control surface = 20$ Pannels for control surface = 78$ Excluding sids, how much are the parts... it's 8 sids, right? is that controlled by 4 pics? I know everyone will tell me to look in the wiki or read another thread, but serisouly, there is 101010010110101010101010101010101010 zillion gigabytes of data on this website, and i can never find the answers to what i'm looking for :( Let's all be friends :)

I don't know how I was not aware of this!!! What is the current status of this project? ack... how did this slip me by? Are there any left? what is the price of these.. OMG OMG OMG OMG!?

Dude, you are a maximus master. Now if only someone could add an arpegiator and ADSR envelope to the midiNES vst plugin, we'd have the best plugin duo of the century.

I don't know that much about PIC chip revisions. The 4685 is, i'm guessing, an improvement over the 452? meaning it might be required for v2.0 because that will require more processing speed/power? Is it also 40-pins? I guess i only ask stupid questions.

After requesting this, i discovered that's a basic feature of MBSID! just wish it was avail in the VST now :)

I'm so stupid, i pose my questions, then i spend 9 hours, and then i find the answers by accident.. Regardless, i have a control surface A now that completely works! i have set up multitimbral settings for a single sid, i bet for multi sids that's not hard.. so amazing..

From the Step B page Does this mean multitimbral setup? Octave 3 is sid 1, octave 4 is sid 2, etc.. ?

okay, ignoring J4 altogether, and using instead D0 - D8 on J3 ONLY, i have gotten the menu, rotary encoder, and 5 select buttons working. HURRAY FOR JUSTICE!!! next thing, bank stick! then i will sing some of my world famous music fo ryou guys over top of some cool c64 synth. sorry i'm such an annoying half wit, but this is all totally new to me.

well, i tried just quickly grounding the pins I got events on my lcd!! grouning D2 on j4 SHOULD be the "menu" button. However, i got the number 3 appearing next to Chn1 i have a revision 3 din module, so i followed to corrected pinout, rather than the pinout shown on the board.. I will upload midio128 right now question, when i click menu, what should I see? when I click D2 on j3, i see the next patch, and a message that no bankstick is present (so the patch is empty) SOO much more exciting than yesterday, when i could not get ANYTHING happening!!! EDIT===== I uploaded it, can create midi notes from the pins of the chips.. however, which notes should correspond to which buttons for the SID module i wonder.. i don't think i have it right, even with the corrected pinout.. somehow.. hmm ====EDIT ==== each D pin gives me, in order, the next note, chrmatically from C2 to G4 so it works... the DIn + core are connected properly. excellent.. now to recheck my buttons.. my damn buttons..

I don't knwow aht line is the D O, but D0 is pin 11 according to the DINx4 diagram, so that's what i measured. Looking at the diagram, there's 5v going through a resistor to pin 11, so if you connect that to ground, it should always be 5v, so no surprises there i guess. Now what bothers me is, with all these voltages correct... why do the buttons not work... i have tried numerous alternatives... when a button is depressed, it's connecting a ground to the 5v coming in through the resistor, right? essentially, supplying 5v to the data register, i guess signifiying an "on". So i';ve disconnected all my buttons.. when i load sid 1.7 software, i should be able to access the menu by grounding D2 of the 2nd IC... pin 13 i will do that and see if i get the menu this time...

DIN module disconnected D0 mode all measured against the VSS D0 is on the DIN board, so i did not measure it SC - against Vss 0v RC - against the Vss - 0v SC mode SC - 5V RC - 0v RC mode SC - 0V RC - 5V now, connected with the DIN module taking measurements first on the core board, THEN the din board D0 mode core SC - 0v RC - 0v DIN D0 - 5v SC - 0v RC - 0v SC mode Core SC - 5v RC - 0.02v DIN module D0 - 5v SC - 5v RC - 0v RC mode Core SC - 0v RC - 5v DIN module D0 - 5v SC 0v RC - 5v I checked the D0 on all 4 chips, and others, d1, d2, they all seem to be 5v all the time.. on all the chips

Checking now

Ahaha.. well, hopefully someone who knows about these things can take a look and figure out why i'm not getting any sweet control surface action happening. I've been using the patch manager to upload some good patches from the preset bank... at least that's working... :) I love the ARPS

Believe me, i went through that already. I have another thread, here http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=8816.0 where i show my voltmeter results for the D0 SC RC check... i hope someone can make sense of them

in this specific instance, i searched only the forums. In other isntances i have serached the wiki and come up blank, only to find after asking that there is something under a name i didn't think of :( Right now, i have found the SRIO test, at last, something to check why my DIN module is not changing my sid parameters.. however, i didnt' find it in the wiki, which reccomends i use some MIDIO128 program, when i went to download it, i saw there was a program specifically for the DIN module.. i don't know whch is the better solution.. all I know is that my DIN module and buttons don't enter the menu, and that leaves me parameterless... :( This isn't as hard as building an analog synth from scratch, but this is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a beginner project.. ahahaha!! it's still exciting when i get frustrated to play back my first mp3s of my first sid noises at least :)

I search the forums and wiki for things and never find them, i guess i'm using the wrong search arguments...

Here are the results of my connection test D0 selected on mod wheel D0 voltage 3.8v to the Vss, 4.1v to the RC SC voltage 0 (measured against Vdd) 5,10 against the RC (5.12 on the core) rc voltage 4.14 (measured against VSS) SC selected on mod wheel D0 voltage 5.02 on all 4 chips SC voltage 5.12 (also on the core) RC voltage 5.12 RC selected on MOd Wheel D0 voltage 1.84 on all 4 chips SC voltage 3.24 against the vss, 4,78 against the RC rc VIKtage 3.39 agaiunst the Vdd, 4.78 against the SC (4.79 on the core) what does all of this mean? Why are the voltages lower than 5.0 on the RC test? Why are the D0 voltages not 5.0 for the D0 test? :(

argh! There is literally soo much information i cant' contain it all in one brain.. Oddly, i connected it to J9 on the core, but it didn't work.. i got voltage in the right pins.. but.. my buttons.. my encoder.. nada I even wired it correctly using the revised key (these are R3 DIN boards, so the legend on the board is wrong).. but still, nothing... i can't figure out why i could not enter the menu.. my menu button was wired correctly, and was a working button :(

i know, i saw it I know now the precise measurements of the unit.. and yet, the pinout is not explained A B C are the names of the pins.. but i need to know which is the ground pin... that's all is the ground pin the middle pin? one of the side pins?

The DIN page, and Avishowtech's info, says if you are using an encoder, to use J6 on the DIn board, but the schematics on the Step A page say to use J9, for both options, encoder OR button. which one is correct?