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not meaning burning yourself accidently with the torch or getting burn by tin dripping on your legs (yes yes i'm one of those soldering in my underwear :D)!! i'm asking about the tin itself - is it in any way harmful for the human body? last week i finally got all parts together to make a midibox and i closed myself for like two days in my room soldering about 10 hours daily. i have to say that the third day when i woke up - i felt really light headed! that scared me quite much so i made a two day break and now solder about only two hours daily... or was it inappropriate ventilation?

everything is possible for a noob :> why couldn't they call it just ground instead of VSS ? :D okay the most important thing is that i made it. maybe i could make a tutorial for wiki on this ? cheers.

okay i got it - i soldered the ain module wrong by putting the bypass caps between the output of every chip and the connector to the core module... if i could suggest maybe a few small improvements to the ucapps site? those pictures how to solder the ain module could be clickable and bigger - my mistake was caused by them and maybe a few else people might get confused by them? i could even make those bigger pics with my digital cam. oh and there is a mistak on the ain site - there is written that you should solder the bypass cap between VSS and ground but in the pdf it's VDD and ground - that was my second failure.... cheers !

i don't get it - i connected 3 pots 10k linear to my ain module and none of the pots ever reached value 127, stopping at about 123. i used the most cheap pots but i guess that shouldn't happen anyway? bad soldering doesn't come to mind - i checked everything a few times.

i feel like a lcd-burning-virgin still :D oh i guess i'll rather shut my mouth because there is still much to burn before my box is made :>

hi ! i just had exactly the same problem and wanted to post here - i checked all interconnections twice and still nothing. but then i came to the idea that i'm maybe giving the box not enough power and mios just won't start up. guess what? i change the voltage on my psu from 7,5 volts and it worked right away! so maybe you have the same problem - worth checking out i guess !!

solid answer !! thanks a bunch ! mine will be used for switching mute, solo and cue on channels. so they won't be punished a lot and i guess when i'll get another colour for every function this will look really great!

hehe nie wiedzialem QBAS ze jestes z polski :D swietnie bede mial komu wiercic dziury w brzuchu.... zastanawia mnie - czy ktos tutaj nie mogbly mi wykonac za pieniadze moduly core, ain, din itp.? sprawdzilem oferte mike's elektronik shop http://www.mikes-elektronikseite.de/shop_englisch/index.htm jestem co prawda przekonany o pelnym profesjonalizmie tego pana jednak cena 68 euro za zestaw do zlozenia midibox 64 + 14 euro przesylka lekko mnie przeraza :|

for my midibox ? http://piekarz.pl/pdf/HIGLHY_2006%20(D)/KS01L%2031-34.pdf i would want to use the ks 01 bl round ones with 5 volt leds inside.

i'm sorry for bothering about this one :> but i'm a complete noob and everything seems so exiting right now :D

thanks for this tk! um now i really have to think twice about those lcd screens... do i really need them actually? hm. as you are online another quick question - is it possible to make something i wrote above with the encoders changing the cc's of the faders? i saw some fancy encoders at my local store lately that clicks every time it changes it's parameter.

that's cool but not enough :D i would want to label every cc with another name that would be shown on the lcd above the several faders. the cc (and also the name) could be changed with a turn of the encoder - just like in the korg kontrol series....

okay i'll try to be more accurate :D i hope my bad english will allow me to write something constructive... so again - let's say that i have 8 push-potentiometers and 8 sliders and two 2x40 displays above them to use them with the feedback option of mackie control emulation in ableton live. i guess that i will always use mackie mode when using live actually. now - i still want to use the lcd's somehow when i'm using for example fruity loops which hasn't any mackie emulation mode. so i would want to make something that's very similar to the korg kontrol engine: there should be a message "vol" on the lcd screen above each of the sliders, when i turn one of the encoders, there should be written "pan" then "send" and so on. of course the slider would have to change it's cc number every time i turn the encoder...

i'm currently getting together all parts for making my own midibox lc (at last !!) but i wanted to know one thing before i get all parts (especially the lcd's): so, i know that when the midibox lc is in logic control mode it shows all parameters like a "real" logic control. but i thought - how can i use the lcd's when not using logic control emulation? could i type in some text to have something similar like the korg control (pan, vol, send etc.) or use them just to type in channel names or else? and the most important question - is it difficult to type in such things and save them as presets?

okay once again :D what i want to achieve is to have the ability to control, lets say 8 volume channels with just one encoder. my idea for this was to pin one encoder to 8 din inputs at the same time, but with on\off switches between the enc and the input. now - when i want to higher up the volume on 3 channels, i just switch on the three inputs of the desired volume channels and move the knob and it increases.... or at least i hope it increases. this might be a quite wicked idea but in my case it would be quite comfortable.

thanks TOS - got that ! but i still didn't get a proper answer for my quesion actually.

"Don't confuse AIN's with DIN's." huh ? now i'm really confused... so is there a problem with dins or is this just ain related? my god the day i will turn a knob and it will send some proper midi will be the greatest day of my life....

stryd can you help ?

what about this one ? http://www.elemar.pl/27G38.html

ah one moment i think i got it now - so you talk about a situation when i have ALL switches off and the encoder is completely bridged away from the din module right?? i hope yes :D so actually as long as i leave at least one switch open everything should function ok right?

stryd: i didn't know wbout such a feature - most of the "professional" midiboxes aren't able to do something like this. is it easy to program the mios that way? i'm a really electronic-noob, so could someone please please explain further this grounding problem? what is this about and why would i get random messages?

and most important - how should they be grounded ?

could you explain that grounding issue a bit further? do they have to be grounded between the switch --- input or before the switch right after the encoder?

so i had this idea for some time to make a quite different design of a midibox than usually. the goal is to create a box that could handle 64 functions but it should be as small as possible (mainly for live using) i didn't draw it yet so i try to show it with text. _________________________________________________________________________________ ENCODER | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | SWITCH | now, the linking to the DIN4X module would look like this: ENCODER---------| |____________________________________ | | | | SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH | | | | INPUT 1 INPUT 2 INPUT 3 INPUT 4 is a connection like this technically possible? this way the box has also another feature besides being very compact: imagine playing a live set in ableton live with 4 channels, every channel has one lowpass filter stuffed at it's end. the first 3 channels are playing. now you want to make something like this: you want to cutoff the lowpass filter on the first 3 playing channels and when they are cutoffed you want to slowly punch in the fourth channel and then punch away the cutoff from the first three to make all 4 playing normally. it would be nearly impossible to do this with a normal midibox where every function is bond to one knob because you would have for example to move 3 pots at the same time to just make the cutoff. with my idea, you just switch the first 3 switches on the cutoff encoder, and the 4 on the volume encoder. easy ?

ich druecke euch sehr die daumen jungs. dass ist naehmlich eine sache von der ich schon ziemlich lange traume. ich habs aber bis jetzt immer von der software seite her probiert da ich ein ziemlicher elektronik-noob bin. ich habe grosse erwartungen mit bome's midi translator der in der pro version einen zeitraffer hat. ich hoffe man kann in sehr minimal einstellen damit dies sofort funktionieren koennte.