albpower2seq4sid Posted February 24, 2012 Report Posted February 24, 2012 Hi, Last Wednesday I bought a Sound Blaster Card here with the code: CT1740, other models mostly don't have the OPL3, but I found this one which has the chip, so I thought this info can be useful to the community Best Regards and happy building, have fun!! Quote
nILS Posted February 24, 2012 Report Posted February 24, 2012 wiki - soundcards_with_ymf262_and_or_yac512_chips ;) Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks!! Nice guide!! Edited February 25, 2012 by nILS please don't full-quote unless you actually respond to what you quote. Quote
Gilesjuk Posted February 24, 2012 Report Posted February 24, 2012 I found two cards with them on that don't appear on the list: AZTECH MM PRO 16IIA-3D FP-6L (0D) and PACKARD BELL 030069. When looking on ebay look for the two chips, the OPL and the DAC chip. They're usually pretty close to each other. Look for the text pattern of the Yamaha OPL chip, it's quite recognisable. See image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YMF262-M.jpg Also, I found that counting the rows of pins helped, there's 12 pins and there's a dot to indicate pin one. Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks, nice tips, I will look carefully Edited February 25, 2012 by nILS please don't full-quote unless you actually respond to what you quote. Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Posted February 29, 2012 I'm sorry, I will be careful not to quote if there is no need for it Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) I found also a sound card with YMF262: Analog Devices Ad1848 Mf-009 Edited February 29, 2012 by nILS please don't full-quote unless you actually respond to what you quote. Quote
Schrabikus Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 I found two cards with them on that don't appear on the list: AZTECH MM PRO 16IIA-3D FP-6L (0D) and PACKARD BELL 030069. Can you confirm, that AZTECH have OPL and DAC? Quote
Acul Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 Hello I found a dealer who demands $ 4 per each IC. YMF262-M 4$ each YAC512-M 4$ each I'm going to try to reduce cost but still on at least $ 3 Greez and sorry for me bad english :) Acul Quote
Gilesjuk Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Can you confirm, that AZTECH have OPL and DAC? Yes it does. This is the item in question I bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320496749050 OPL is about halfway down on the left size of the card (rightmost of the two chips), and the DAC is one of the chips top left. Edited March 1, 2012 by Gilesjuk Quote
nILS Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 If you guys find a card that has OPL3s/YACs please add it to the list in the wiki. If you guys find a cards that do not have OPL3s/YACs please add it to the list of cards known NOT to have them, also in the WIKI. Thankees. Quote
Gilesjuk Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 Added mine. Was going to before but couldn't remember my Wiki login. I've got a spare ISA soundcard with OPL and DAC, I will list it on the fleamarket. Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I didn't add mine yet because next saturday I will buy a batch of sound boards ISA and then I will see wich one has the chips, I just called the seller a few minutes ago and he sets aside that boards for me. The site is this: http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-139128508-placa-de-sonido-isa-_JM Well, I don't know how to add the cards model to the wiki, do I have to create a new user? or with the user and password of this forum I could sign in the wiki? I'm sorry, I forgot an explanation in the margin: $14.50 of my country is almost 3.30 USD each board. Edited March 1, 2012 by albpower2seq4sid Quote
Gilesjuk Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 That one has the OPL and YAC DAC, top left. Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Posted March 2, 2012 Yes, I asked for that board and to show me the other boards to see if they have the chips Quote
Schrabikus Posted March 5, 2012 Report Posted March 5, 2012 UTSource: Mininmum order - $10 YMF262-M - $3 YAC512-M - $3 International registered shipping - $4 Stop cannibalizing soundcards! :frantics: Quote
Gilesjuk Posted March 5, 2012 Report Posted March 5, 2012 Stop cannibalizing soundcards! :frantics: Many of them will end up in a skip or rubbish dump anyway. We at least salvage some less common parts in the process. Quote
Schrabikus Posted March 5, 2012 Report Posted March 5, 2012 It's an irony. 2nd life of electronic components is good! Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Posted March 5, 2012 Last Saturday a batch board's seller told me "I show you the newest ones", then I told him "no..., Please, show me the oldest ones" so I found two with the YMF262 and the yac512!! of course I bought both boards So, before those boards would go to the rubbish dump I rescue ( I paid the boards = rescue ) the FM chips on their way to the skip... well a philosophical thought... Quote
Schrabikus Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 Do the electronic components has a karma? If so - OPL3 and SID's has a good one! :twitch: Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Posted March 7, 2012 Do the electronic components has a karma? If so - OPL3 and SID's has a good one! :twitch: Could it be they have one, when we see an old sound board we run to buy it ( if we saw the chips on them. Could it be we'll become experts to recogniza the YMF262, we develop something like an eagle's eye to see that chips they seem to be reborn each time we find and reuse them Quote
Gilesjuk Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 SID and FM chips were a quantum leap in computer sound. Before SID it was all beeps (and afterwards too). FM provided better sounds, although we tend to think some of them are cheesy now. By the time sample playback became more popular it all got a bit dull and boring. Hence why nobody (to my knowledge) really builds things that play samples using old sample playback chips. The SID chip was more memorable than the Paula chip in the Amiga. Quote
albpower2seq4sid Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Posted March 7, 2012 SID and FM chips were a quantum leap in computer sound. Before SID it was all beeps (and afterwards too). FM provided better sounds, although we tend to think some of them are cheesy now. By the time sample playback became more popular it all got a bit dull and boring. Hence why nobody (to my knowledge) really builds things that play samples using old sample playback chips. The SID chip was more memorable than the Paula chip in the Amiga. "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" It could be said two ( SID and OPL3 ) giants leaps for our comunnity ( Midibox ). I agree sample chips have no power to lift our spirit up like ( specially ) the SID has its great power of sounds that invades our souls. I don't know if anyone else, outside our community, could appreciate this legendary chips, a "middle age" between analog and digital ages, as to say digital control but powerful analog sound... Quote
falfa Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I found this project about using the ISA bus to talk to the FM chip in a soundcard. I have a box of old soundcards, however all of my soundcards have the OPL integrated in the main controller chip. So I found this project interesting. It should not be impossible to integrate a full ISA card in a midibox project, it would probably not be the prettiest box around. "AdLib sound card on a parallel port" ISA to parallel port adlib project (I'm sorry if I'm reposting old knowledge here) Quote
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