kristal= Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Well, organizing a bulk order for an existing design is no big deal. If someone can provide this, I'll do the shipping and handling. Designing a case for the LPC17 is currently out of reach for me. A MB6582 and SEQ4 build plus an ongoing ALBS bulk order keeps me pretty occupied. Edit: if you don't plan to mount the board directly to the back panel, the LPC17 will probably fit: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/ws4711/40%20MBSEQV4%20Project/Front_Panel_In_Case_1.jpg -- maybe somebody can verify this? I have a case here, but no LPC17... I don't know, how orange_hand managed the rear panel, he used a Quad IIc_MIDI PCB instead of the Core32 onboard MIDI ports. Well, I'll ask him next time we text. Edited January 6, 2013 by kristal= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Well, organizing a bulk order for an existing design is no big deal. If someone can provide this, I'll do the shipping and handling. Designing a case for the LPC17 is currently out of reach for me. A MB6582 and SEQ4 build plus an ongoing ALBS bulk order keeps me pretty occupied. Edit: if you don't plan to mount the board directly to the back panel, the LPC17 will probably fit: http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/ws4711/40%20MBSEQV4%20Project/Front_Panel_In_Case_1.jpg -- maybe somebody can verify this? I have a case here, but no LPC17... I don't know, how orange_hand managed the rear panel, he used a Quad IIc_MIDI PCB instead of the Core32 onboard MIDI ports. Well, I'll ask him next time we text. The problem is that the LPC board is 10cm deep. So if you mount it to the back, the LCD connectors are touching the CS pcb. With lower hexbolts and not mounting it to the backpanel could work. Not sure how orange_hand exactly did it. His pictures don't tell :wink: It might also be fixable by just making the panel at the front a little bit taller. By the look of things, there is room for the whole construction to change angle without changing the other panels. Edited January 6, 2013 by Shuriken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Shuriken, The problem is that the LPC board is 10cm deep. So if you mount it to the back, the LCD connectors are touching the CS pcb. With lower hexbolts and not mounting it to the backpanel could work. Not sure how orange_hand exactly did it. His pictures don't tell :wink: It might also be fixable by just making the panel at the front a little bit taller. By the look of things, there is room for the whole construction to change angle without changing the other panels. if you're referring to http://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer article the pictures do tell that he used STM32 core, not LPC, as can also be seen from answering the questions throughout the article. Some time ago I tried to make the measurements to accommodate LPC core in the box but never finished that (I still have the A3 paper with http://www.heidenreich.de/english/products/group_06/variant_b/skizze_pultgroessen_variant_b.pdf printed in my laptop bag). Making the front slightly taller will probably cause the frontpanel height to change since it's angled, maybe by a fraction but maybe enough already for the panel not to fit (and Heidenreich doesn't use the panel size a manufacturing parameter, alas). So you would need to lift both H as well as H1. The problem (for me, at least) was that http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_case_measures.pdf shows all the dimensions (e.g. 35,78mm from bottom to the front-side top screw but this doesn't seem to be the H1 dimension (that seems to be till the front hinge top if I can say from the enclosure sketch). If I got it right you can't re-create the order based on the sheet - you're still missing the H1, the other (H, B, T) seem to be there assuming the 'B' doesn't include the side panel thickness. But maybe TK can reveal the number and we could simply add 5mm to both H1 and H and have the job done... My two cents, if anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to hear that my concerns are not really concerns and would be first one to get the case (two, actually) :rolleyes: P.S. Am I the only one missing 'preview before posting' in the upgraded forum engine and the only one missing lack of GUI when quoting? :sad: Hope this helps, freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 P.S. Am I the only one missing 'preview before posting' in the upgraded forum engine and the only one missing lack of GUI when quoting? :sad: Click on 'More reply options' and you get the preview instantly. About quoting, it is not working hassle-free for me either. E.g. if I start editing the quote first, I usually cannot add my own text below the quote any more - the cursor just doesn't get there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Click on 'More reply options' and you get the preview instantly. About quoting, it is not working hassle-free for me either. E.g. if I start editing the quote first, I usually cannot add my own text below the quote any more - the cursor just doesn't get there... As for the preview I just found that well-hidden feature, yes :rolleyes: As for the replies, that's why first I enter some dummy characters after the quote before doing any formatting changes not to lose the cursor... Okay, enough complaints, back to business :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Shuriken, if you're referring to http://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer article the pictures do tell that he used STM32 core, not LPC, as can also be seen from answering the questions throughout the article. Some time ago I tried to make the measurements to accommodate LPC core in the box but never finished that (I still have the A3 paper with http://www.heidenreich.de/english/products/group_06/variant_b/skizze_pultgroessen_variant_b.pdf printed in my laptop bag). Making the front slightly taller will probably cause the frontpanel height to change since it's angled, maybe by a fraction but maybe enough already for the panel not to fit (and Heidenreich doesn't use the panel size a manufacturing parameter, alas). So you would need to lift both H as well as H1. The problem (for me, at least) was that http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_case_measures.pdf shows all the dimensions (e.g. 35,78mm from bottom to the front-side top screw but this doesn't seem to be the H1 dimension (that seems to be till the front hinge top if I can say from the enclosure sketch). If I got it right you can't re-create the order based on the sheet - you're still missing the H1, the other (H, B, T) seem to be there assuming the 'B' doesn't include the side panel thickness. But maybe TK can reveal the number and we could simply add 5mm to both H1 and H and have the job done... My two cents, if anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to hear that my concerns are not really concerns and would be first one to get the case (two, actually) :rolleyes: P.S. Am I the only one missing 'preview before posting' in the upgraded forum engine and the only one missing lack of GUI when quoting? :sad: Hope this helps, freddy I am well aware off the fact that he is using STM32 Core. Not only because of the fact that he got the Core32 board frome me :wink:. If you look at the pictures, i never ever see more then a blank back panel. You can also notice that he is using low hex distance bolts as his board sits lower then the panel profile. So that would make the picture a good example for an LPC17 solution. But i agree on the fact that we need the exact dimensions based on the measurements that heindreich requires. I couldn't figure it out from the pdf i found either. So my assumptions were based merely on the pictures orange_hand posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I am well aware off the fact that he is using STM32 Core. Not only because of the fact that he got the Core32 board frome me :wink:. If you look at the pictures, i never ever see more then a blank back panel. You can also notice that he is using low hex distance bolts as his board sits lower then the panel profile. So that would make the picture a good example for an LPC17 solution.Ah, got it, I missed the point (as it usually happens with me, sorry about that) :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaudio Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 if you're referring to http://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer article the pictures do tell that he used STM32 core, not LPC, as can also be seen from answering the questions throughout the article. Some time ago I tried to make the measurements to accommodate LPC core in the box but never finished that (I still have the A3 paper with http://www.heidenrei...n_variant_b.pdf printed in my laptop bag). Making the front slightly taller will probably cause the frontpanel height to change since it's angled, maybe by a fraction but maybe enough already for the panel not to fit (and Heidenreich doesn't use the panel size a manufacturing parameter, alas). So you would need to lift both H as well as H1. The problem (for me, at least) was that http://www.ucapps.de...se_measures.pdf shows all the dimensions (e.g. 35,78mm from bottom to the front-side top screw but this doesn't seem to be the H1 dimension (that seems to be till the front hinge top if I can say from the enclosure sketch). If I got it right you can't re-create the order based on the sheet - you're still missing the H1, the other (H, B, T) seem to be there assuming the 'B' doesn't include the side panel thickness. But maybe TK can reveal the number and we could simply add 5mm to both H1 and H and have the job done... My two cents, if anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to hear that my concerns are not really concerns and would be first one to get the case (two, actually) :rolleyes: P.S. Am I the only one missing 'preview before posting' in the upgraded forum engine and the only one missing lack of GUI when quoting? :sad: Hope this helps, freddy I've calculated based on the http://www.ucapps.de...se_measures.pdf diagram, that H1 would be 44.10 mm. So would that mean that all we need is: H1= 49.1mm, H=86.82mm, T=125.20mm and B=434.50mm (17.5'' as in TK's design) or 482.6mm (19'')? Is there no need to increase the T at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I've calculated based on the http://www.ucapps.de...se_measures.pdf diagram, that H1 would be 44.10 mm. So would that mean that all we need is: H1= 49.1mm, H=86.82mm, T=125.20mm and B=434.50mm (17.5'' as in TK's design) or 482.6mm (19'')?Hmm, the only problem is that Heidenreich page says H1 needs to be 45.0mm at least. Assuming TK's box H1 was 45mm I'd say 50mm would be a safe bet. I'm also not sure till where is H measured. Anyway, we're getting closer with the reverse-engineering :-)One more remark - side panels are 3mm thick but with 1.5mm cutout. Since B includes the side panel thickness the 3mm (2* 1.5mm) should be added to front panel width to make B=437.5mm. And, that's 17.22", not 17.5", btw :-) Is there no need to increase the T at all?There is no need to and you can't do that anyway because the panel will be too small after increasing T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ah, got it, I missed the point (as it usually happens with me, sorry about that) :sad: NP :wink: Hmm, the only problem is that Heidenreich page says H1 needs to be 45.0mm at least. Assuming TK's box H1 was 45mm I'd say 50mm would be a safe bet. I'm also not sure till where is H measured. Anyway, we're getting closer with the reverse-engineering :-) One more remark - side panels are 3mm thick but with 1.5mm cutout. Since B includes the side panel thickness the 3mm (2* 1.5mm) should be added to front panel width to make B=437.5mm. And, that's 17.22", not 17.5", btw :-) There is no need to and you can't do that anyway because the panel will be too small after increasing T. Unfortunately the Heidenreich online tool, does not automatically adjust if you make H1 too tall. So i think someone needs to actually make a quote request to see if the calculations are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange_hand Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hi, I think the LPC fits in that case, if you mount it on the bottom. You would need a break out board for the rear panel, as shown here: http://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=70858&start=75 Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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