listen202 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Working on a front panel on a MIDIbox MB-6582 and on the reference panel the modulation matrix is marked 1-8 but TK's docs list the env and LFO mods. Just wanted to make sure that this right before I get it made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listen202 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 I have confirmed that the matrix labeling is correct with another user. I might change a few things on the rear panel, not sure how much space I have to work in my ideas may design a separate break out box. Would like to have more I/O for the filter Input and a active mixer for all the channels. Maybe get buffers for the in and out? The feedback hack is cool so would like to keep it. Here is the final panel that I am going to go with. I will post up the DXF and a gurber version when I make sure it all fits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I really like the look of this panel.. looking forward to seeing the completed build. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listen202 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just got it cut on my CNC and it looks like I got everything right. Still need to work on the I/O panel. I will get the DXF up as soon as I get it cleaned up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 You have your own CNC? Nice. Ever consider selling frontpanel services? -Darrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listen202 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Yeah at some point I would like to offer front-panels for parts/PCBs, not so keen on making it into a biz. Its actually kinda hard work and not something that I enjoy too much. Maybe when this whole covid-19 thing blows over I will give it a think on the best way to make it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, listen202 said: Yeah at some point I would like to offer front-panels for parts/PCBs, not so keen on making it into a biz. Its actually kinda hard work and not something that I enjoy too much. Maybe when this whole covid-19 thing blows over I will give it a think on the best way to make it happen. Totally understood regarding the hard work... I really like what you've done though and I'd love to buy this panel set from you... PM me if we can make that work. Cheers, -Darrell Edited March 19, 2020 by dwestbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listen202 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Here is the DXF file if anyone wants it. Still need to do the rear panel... maybe it will get done this month MB_6582_panel.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Thanks for sharing. I don’t have a CNC, so I might convert this to FPD format to get it made by Front Panel Express. Cheers! -Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganchan Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi what program do you use as cad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Finally started messing around with this design in KiCAD and, I'm really liking it! Think I might get it made soon :-) Thanks @listen202 for sharing! Edited November 25, 2020 by dwestbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 4/14/2020 at 8:24 PM, dwestbury said: Thanks for sharing. I don’t have a CNC, so I might convert this to FPD format to get it made by Front Panel Express. Cheers! -Darrell Did you ever get this all the way to FPD? I'm all thumbs with CAD tinkering, so if you did, and could share it, you'd be my hero. :) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) I had a drive crash and lost the Kicad project, but I still have the slightly modified DXF file that I worked on, which was derived from Listen202's version. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtmSvwylfFJagkpl5QlWo9tIUbJ0?e=mamgPG Working with DXF's in KiCAD requires several steps: 1) In the KICAD PCB tool, you'll import Listen202's DXF file into the Edge.cuts layer 2) make sure to size it properly, (approx. 232.3mm x 163.2mm) 3) Delete all of the graphics from this layer, but keep all of the holes and cutouts, since this will act as the drills layer 4) Import Listen202's DXF file again, but this time into the F.SilkS layer (this is the layer for the graphics silkscreen / inlay) 5) Now you'll do the opposite of what you did in step 3 and delete all of the holes and cutouts from the F.SilkS layer, but keep the graphics 6) Next, you need to create the front and back Copper layers (F.Cu and B.Cu), which are basically just rectangles in the correct panel size (again, approx. 232.3mm x 163.2mm) That's really it for the editing, so now you have a choice for how you want to have the panel produced. You can export the individual layers from KiCAD and import them into Front Panel Designer if you want them manufacture your panel. Or, you could use KiCAD to export standard Gerber files that you can use to have the panel produced as if it were a PCB. This works really well because a standard PCB is 1.6mm thick, with rigid copper on the top and bottom for strength, whereas the PacTec-10 aluminum panel is 1.5mm, so only a very small difference. JLCPCB will produce ~5 of these panels for you for about $30 USD, whereas Front Panel Express will charge $250 for the aluminum cuts, drills and inlays... When time permits, I'll eventually get around to recreating the KiCAD project and I'll share it here. Edited March 3, 2021 by dwestbury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6040 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Hi dwestbury and listen202 Thanks a million for sharing this! Looks like I can finally finish my build which was stalling so far since I could not figure out how to get Fusion360 to create a proper Toolpath for the Graphics with a cheap 3018 CNC machine. I have only done simple pcb's so far with FlatCAM. I tried to follow your instructions and created a Kicad project. I did not know how to size properly so I went with Listen202's version which seems to be correctly sized. If I measure in Kicad it is (232,41 mm x 163,27 mm). I also had problems with the copper rectangles, as Kicad always complained that they should not overlap, but I hope I got it right. In Kicad itself the Silkscreen vanishes behind the copper, but if I check in GerberView it seems to be correct. If you could take a look at this project and verify that it is really ok that would be marvelous. Cheers 60/40 mb6582.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavey Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Now this is an interesting idea. Could bring the cost down a whole hella lot. Would it be cost effective as well for a breadbin sized layout, like TK's classic midibox sid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) On 3/30/2021 at 8:11 AM, 6040 said: If you could take a look at this project and verify that it is really ok that would be marvelous. Hello @6040 ... The measurements on your panel design look correct when I use the caliper in KiCAD's PCB tool, so you should be good to go. You may also want to connect with @Manu29 since he's gone ahead and produced a panel set based on this design already. Edited April 18, 2021 by dwestbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0main Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi guys, those panels look fantastic. Would anyone sell a Front + Back panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Hi guys, I tried using Kicad to export it to gerber file but I think I did something wrong. Once uploaded on JLCPCB, I was unable to see the preview and PCB has no dimensions. :C Can someone post gerber files for the front panel and back panel (if possible)? I would really appreciate. Olivier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwestbury Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) Here's the gerbers for the MB-6582 panel set pictured in this thread... Please credit @listen202 and @Manu29 for their efforts... _MB6582_Panel_L202-Manu.zip _MB6582_Rear_L202-Manu.zip Edited June 20, 2022 by dwestbury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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