Stigmata Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 What are the difference between the ALPS and the Panasonic motorfader??Thinking of ordering the panasonic now when the dollar is low..... ;DChristoffer Quote
Guest the_Swede Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 The ALPS have touch-detection sensors, the panasonics do not. In addition, I presume the action differs somewhat. I have heard people complaining about the lack of smoothness of the panasonic. Try to get more opinions. Quote
basta73 Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Has anyone tried to modify their motorfaders to make them more responsive, or to add/adjust touch sensitivity? Quote
TK. Posted January 21, 2003 Report Posted January 21, 2003 The MIDIbox MF controls the motors with a pulse wide modulated voltage. Not all parameters like pulsewidth, duty cycle, acceleration are adjustable yet, I choosed these values based on my observations with the Alps faders. I will add a calibration menu for these parameters when I find the time...Touch Sensor circuit: see http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_din_touchsensors.pdfAlps faders are coming with an additional pin for a direct connection between the fader knob and the capacitive input circuit.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote
basta73 Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 Panasonic faders.I took apart one of the panasonic faders. Â I found that there's and extra track running alongside the pair of tracks that make the pot work. Â It has a hole along one end for a single pin to stick through.---------------0Anyone think there's a way to use this to make the fader touch sensitive?If not, what is the extra track for?btw, nothing comes in contact with the track right now. would probably have to fuse something to the part of the slider that holds the slider knob. Quote
Guest damien Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 hello, what do you think about the penny and giles MF? Quote
d2k Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 hello, what do you think about the penny and giles MF?...expensive!! ;Dvery nice tho I believe... Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Sometimes I lay awake at nite dreaming of P + G fadersBut I got 16 Panasonics !!!!!!! ::)Lo's ones went good Quote
Steven_C Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Basta, some motorfaders have an extra resistor track for use on automated analogue mixing consoles, where the resistor forms part of the signal path. But this creates the problem where the electrical noise from the motor gets into the signal. That's why VCA's are usually used, where a control voltage is referenced from the slider position, which contols the Voltage Controlled Amplifier for that slider. I think this is how the automation system knows the position of the fader too. cos on some consoles you can turn the VCA's on and off.well at least I think I know what I'm talking about, someone correct me if I'm wrong!bye from Steve ;D Quote
TK. Posted January 31, 2003 Report Posted January 31, 2003 My ALPS faders only have such an extra track --- for the touch detection. :)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote
Stigmata Posted January 31, 2003 Author Report Posted January 31, 2003 In conclusion, Should I go for the Panasonic or the ALPS, is it worth the price difference?I don't think the panasonic MF's are bad quality? or are they??Christoffer Quote
LO Posted February 2, 2003 Report Posted February 2, 2003 Far from it!The panasonic faders are excellent value for money Quote
d2k Posted March 26, 2003 Report Posted March 26, 2003 Hey Basta...Any joy from the extra track on the panasonic faders for touch sensor capatiblity? I had a look at the datasheets for the faders and they have one version that has touch detection ;) so, as T also stated:My ALPS faders only have such an extra track --- for the touch detectionIt might work ;pBestDan Quote
d2k Posted March 26, 2003 Report Posted March 26, 2003 http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/components/pdf/evab_nm.pdfTheres the datasheet btw, looking at it again - I think we have the right faders for touchsensor input! ;)From PDF:Compact and 3-track version available — servo,touch sensor and audioNiceDan Quote
Guest funkmasterkola Posted March 28, 2003 Report Posted March 28, 2003 I believe taht you guys got price quotation for the motorfaders. Some one told that Penny+Giles used in original mackie stuff is expensive, and I can't find price anywhere. Could you type how much [apr.] is the cost of panasonic vs alps vs p+g? Quote
smashtv Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 Theres the datasheet btw, looking at it again - I think we have the right faders for touchsensor input!Man I wish..... ;)I just put the meter to a Panasonic fader (just to be sure) and none of the pins have continuity to the fader post. It is one from the Allcorp batch. Later!SmashTV Quote
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