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Hi all. I am having trouble assigning Instruments to different aout channels. i always get the values from Inst.1 on the aouts. By changing the Inst. in the aout menu nothing changes. Can someone conform that. Is this a bug or am i to stupid. I am using v1.4 and the Pic 18f4685. Thanks Chriss.

Hi, just take a white paper and print everthing black exept the labeling. You can do this easily in a layout app (mine is still freehand). just make on layer black and the letters and drilling holes white. And then print. It will not work the first time. But after some tests with the right paper and printer settings you can build your own custom front every time you want in 5 minutes. And of course don´t forget the lacquer to finish.. chriss

hi euphoricgrey, no i first did a 3d model in rhino and then went to a lokal metall company. The main front is just a bend aluminium plate where the angels of the front and back are exactly taken from the rhino model. Bending just cost 5 euro. And the wood sides are just mounted with "metall rightangels" to the front and back. @Jidis of course no problem, since digital cameras are in every mobilephone these days i can make more pictures when i will open it for V2. The reason for this black white label with spray glue is just because i have so much fear of getting the labeling wrong while paying 100 euro or more for www.schaeffer-apparatebau.de in the end having one label wrong. Printing a b/w sheet with a laserprinter and glue it on the front cost maybe 1 euro and i could change it very fast even when there is a mistake or an update. of course the paper won´t hold forever and when i come to very humide places you can see some waves on it but it is still is in very good condition and always impresses a lot of people. And i have everthing prepared for upgrading to V2. I can easily change the labeling of the buttons which will change in V2. thanks chriss

hi, awesome and i really like the manual, with the sound examples this is one of the best manuals i have seen. must say that i already tried build 71 but due to time reasons couldn´t test so much. but this sequencer is a must have.... thorsten, thanks you so much for this. chriss

thanks audiocommander for the Help, in the meantime i found the time to test it with the FM 1.1 and that works, besides the warnings, i couldn´t test it with a real MB Core though, but i generated a hex file. so long christoph

hello, first i want to say that i am happy that you work on a solution for linux, mac users. but in my case it does not work... here my result in the terminal, maybe it helps. Application is the MbSEQ V3 build 60 cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. Least significant bits used. cs_menu.inc:417:Warning [202] Argument out of range. 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hi michael thanks a lot for your input, and i am when it comes to programing language. when there is actually no such makros.sed file than it´s ok. i just wanted to be sure that i am not doing something wrong in the teminal or with my directions. thanks again chriss

hi michael thats exactly what i did on the last weekend, not only that the the hex file was different it was gone... and i got two files called "main.lst" and "main.cod". And i had this errors in the terminal described at the beginning of this thread. the problem i have is that i don´t have a C file nor a C application, instead i want to compile a plain MB asm file with gpasm. otherwise i have to wait till i get a macbook to use mplab again :'( so the new thread should better call "compile MB application assembler files on OSX please" again thanks for your help chriss

ok thank you for the info. didn´t thought about that. But that means i can not compile MB applications whith gpasm right at the moment. (either v.0.13.3 nor v.0.13.4) or is it possible to write a sed file which does the same as it does with MIOS files? And thanks for the links, although i knew them it´s always nice to get replies like that. thanks again chriss

hi all this weekend i wanted to compile the Midibox SEQ application the first time under osx. usually i do this on an old PC , but always had trouble finding the right files and because its much more affort than having one maschine for all that. So first i tried to read the forum and stumbeld over Xcode2. Then i realized i don´t need that, but need gputils-0.13.4, managed to install everthing to recognize that i get a lot of error messages. looked in the forum again and found this thread... and of course the wiki. http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=compiling_the_midibox_source_on_linux now since i am not a linux expert and much more not a command line expert i have problems to get this sed file running. from the wiki does this mean i need to copy both into txt files and save one as "replace-macros.sed" and the other as "fix-gpasm.sh" in the dir of the MB SEQ. because if i do so it does not work. terminal gives me following messages after sh fix-gpasm.sh back: fix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.inc: No such file or directoryfix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.inc_: No such file or directory fix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.asm: No such file or directory fix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.asm_: No such file or directory fix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.h: No such file or directory fix-gpasm.sh: line 4: src/*.h_: No such file or directory am i only in the wrong direction or do i need to do something else. thanks for the help chriss

exactly that is what i mean. i already looked there, but for me it seems that this takes care of names which are printed on the screen. any other idea? thanks for the help chriss

Hi, maybe someone familiar with the MBSID code can give me a hint where to change the values for the CC when pushing the LFO waveform button or the OSC waveform button or the filter Mode button. My plan is to adapt the MBSID CS for a Filter in Ableton Live (At least i want to try it). I know that i can use a midifilter which changes the values (like MidiOX) but i want to learn something about Button routines. thanks chriss

Hi Thorsten, thats perfect, very very cool. chriss

HI, i have one question to the Analog extension of the MBSid Are the slaves also able to send analog voltages through an AOUT? I mean can i hook a second Aout module to one of the slave Cores and get analog voltages out of it... for stereo effects. thanks chriss

www.lobtron.de habe gerade mal nachgeschaut, leider haben die den 74HC165 nicht mehr aber veilleicht kann man den ja ersetzen, kenn mich da nicht so aus. Den 74HC166 haben sie nämlich??? Den 74HC595 sowiso. chriss

hi ilmenator thanks for your suggestions. good to hear. One thing that always is so strange for me is the price fall of behringer products (of course not the patchbay), i mean the DDX started with 1999,. EUR and is now at 600.-. The Multiface from RME is still nearly where it started and is a little bit older. That was one reason i started this thread. Having two mixing consoles in a small room, one for audio and one for midi makes no sense for me. If i will buy the DDX, i think i will not build the LC for a long time.. chriss

thats exactly the point, money is always a topic and is always not enough. a little research: (all EUR) ECHO AUDIOFIRE 12 595.- (12 inputs, no ADAT) RME Hammerfall-Fireface-400 850.- (8 inputs, expensive) RME Hammerfall-Fireface-800 1249.-(8 inputs, expensive) Behringer DDX3216 Digital Mixer 550.- (16 inputs, behringer and needs a FW ADAT) M-audio FW1814 450.- (8 inputs+8/4 ADATs, sound qualitiy?) So the echo would be the cheapest for the number of IOs. The DDX would be the simpelst and RME the maybe the one i have still fun in 10 years. (depends how long FW is supported) thats exactly what interrests me. Is there a difference between pushing faders and buttons on a DDX or a LC? (Assuming that the system audiocard-PC-software-LC runs stable). But maybe these systems can never be as stable as a hardware mixer, and the advantage of a DDX might be that its easy to use from the beginning...and you can make some tunes without turning on the PC. chriss

Hello all i have some trouble finding out what the best solution for me concerning my studio setup. I have about 16-20 analog Audio sources, a MIDIBOX SEQ and a MIDIBOX USB2MIDI Interface. One ibook G4 and a MIDIBOX LC is planned. If it´s possible i would like to have them all at the same time and in realtime (no samples) in my music software. For that i am thinking about a good FW interface (RME or echo) and control the mixer of my music software with a MIDIBOX LC. Another solution would be a digital mixing console like the behringer DDX3216 and an ADAT FW interface, the advantage would be that i can mix more channels and maybe a better performance concerning realtime processing. Disadvantage is the pour soundquality of behringer. I just have no experience in that and want to find a good solution in the beginning. So what do you think about common workflows for one man sleeping room studios. How do you get your analog sources into the computer or how do you process them? chriss

hi stryd_one that sounds awesome i mean i don´t´understand alot but i am still impressed of your work chriss

thats right very very nice, could be linked to a SID tutorial. chriss

yeah, i saw this at the AEC festival in Linz this sommer and asked how he did the buttons, suddenly a guy from yamaha was standing behind me... nice people though, but this whole project is supported by yamaha, thats why it looks so professional. chriss

hello thorsten, thanks for your answer, good to hear that the SR can only deliver 80mA. i can excuse this very easily, you gave so much code to us..... my hope was that there is already an existing project or code. but i will try on my own. thanks again chriss

Hi, my plan is to build a midibox with 64 buttons and 64 leds (beside the encoder and buttons for menu), the leds are under the buttons, (the buttons light when they pushed, toggle state) i already tested this with my MBSEQ and works well so my question is: Since 64 leds have a max. current of 20 mA x 64 = 1280 mA the box would at least need a supply with 2A. By supporting the leds with a led martix, a lot of power could be saved right? Is there already a application where someone implemented a ledmatrix into a MB64 or MB64e design? If not, what would be the best hardware setup to test and program this by my own. I think the application for the led digits is a good way to start, but i am not quite sure. thanks chriss

thanks thorsten, did try it with the MBsid and it works. just put in the OPbuttons into the cs_menu_io_tables.inc and assigned the 5th DIN register to them, after setting the ;; initialize the shift registers movlw 0x04 ; use up to 4 shift registers to ;; initialize the shift registers movlw 0x05 ; use up to 5 shift registers everthing seems to work thanks again, now i can go one building my frontpanel chriss

hi thorsten, cool that this is possible. as always i don´t know what to do exactly.... i just pasted the original code here: and now i would put in four extra Op_buttons like this: CS_MENU_BUTTON_OP1 for example. but how to set the CS_MENU_MODE_INS_OP flag there? like this? and how can i clear the flag within the instrument button functions? like this? when i do that i get following error: thanks chriss