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Well, this was not a x0x set order, but in the maintime it's going to be something similar (wtf, my english sux). it is started for LCD, now there are many x0xes inside, but i haven't a list of parts to request. each member had wrote me what parts he need. at the start i would like just to make a try, and see what goes on. but now i'm in the x0x club :) and i must run inside. at this point i will wrote down the list of parts that i will take on digikey for x0x and few rare parts that i can take in IT. since i need some parts from dalbani and mouser, i will join a bulk from TheProf. I say this to clarify wich parts i'm going order and why.

update: some parts, for the x0x, will be aviable on 04/03/08

well, kartosh and goblinz, tomorrow i will send to all the price for the digikey. if we want to collect the x0x rare too inside it, we must wait until i found them and see if it'z cheap than take it form Prof per ex all together. little update, source in IT for 2SC1583, 1,40euro. 3 chips, shipping to me incudes (12euro), for 3 people, are 8.2 euro + shipping to them country. problem is, takeing parts from different sellers have high shipping cost even if the parts are cheap but: for sure i will take some from dalbani if Prof do the bulk, because some only dalbani have, but 2SC1583 are 9.10euro there! i think i need a super calculator at the end of the game, my calc paper it's become too bigger! :P update: 2SA733AP NEC NEW 100 6-9 days 3.05$ -> 305.00$ 2SA733AP NEC NEW 500 6-9 days 0.73$ -> 365.00$ 2SC536F Sanyo NEW 1,000 6-9 days 0.345$ -> 345.00$ update: 2SC945P Price: €0,10 in IT, €6.50 shipping up to 3kg! ;D 2SC536F Price: it depends on order, but i hope €0,10 like above chips, same shipping!

http://www.ladyada.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=652&highlight=2sc536f here an opinion about. "the only exception is for q11 and perhaps the transistors that make up the diode ladder"

Found last night at 2AM a source in ITALY.. yes incredible. Disponibili: LA 4140 euro 0,43 BA 6110 euro 0,86 cheeeeeap

http://www.sifam.com/2colpush_on_intro.lasso# :)

i'm waiting for him answare, i must buy a minimum of 20 but @ 3,90 each, but as i had say, for a not reasonable difference, would be cool just for 'extreme mod-like-original', i'm searching instead some 2SA733AP. they have the highest beta. NEC ones have highest beta. about 2sc536f: from datasheet http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/285224.pdf difference from 2sc536 are the min max value of DC Current Gain HFe. what change in this? i don't know, who can explain to me? thankyou. from ladyada forum: 2sc536f can raplaced by 2sc945p. roland use it in some 303. http://www.gotronic.fr/ http://www.electronique-diffusion.fr/ this two are france site for rare parts.

kartosh probably you had just see but i can suggest to read this site http://www.subatomicglue.com/x0xl0g/ba662a-analysis/index.html for the price of ba662a and for not reasonable difference between, buy some ba6110 it's better. but if i can buy some it would be cool to have one.

arrived today. thankyou!! ;D

http://www.wdgreenhill.com/AtoZ/semiconductors.htm http://www.donberg-electronique.com/warehs/group14.htm http://www.usbid.com/ <- edit to add. they have sellers in IT too but minimum order for an item is 300$ :o here ba662a are for 3.90€ but i must buy 20pieces. they have others rare parts too, i'll try to ask for a bulk for all the parts that they have. i think ba6110 sounds better at the end. probably you just know.

sure, no problem. i will do another digikey order in the future (some month) ordering some other lcd. if you need your parts just now you can join obiviusly, or we can just do another one later. i will do another, if this go right, because i don't want to spent all money that i have for porjects for lcds that i will use after 6 month or later, than i order just things that i need now. p.s. sasha, what about cool panels and buttons for our x0x? i'll pm you for a little thing :)

well, ad the end of this week i will comunicate the price for each one. there are some items that are not in stock, 2-4 days for it. stay tuned.

sicuramente ci riuscirai :) io prima di cominciare, anni fa, non avevo assolutamente alcuna nozione di elettronica, se non il semplice montaggio di componenti. ti consiglio di leggere per prima cosa come funziona più o meno una PIC18F452, così capisci come si comporta sui connettori. come vedrai molti sono simili ed hanno nomi consequenziali RA1 RA2 RB1 RB2 etc. sia i moduli LCD che il chip Yamaha lavorano su porta parallela, quindi studiati il funzionamento di una porta LPT, è molto semplice. Così già avrai chiaro il perché condividono dei PIN sulla Microchip. Dopodiché il codice e tutto tuo :P

esattamente, il modulo FM ha in comune alcuni pin con LCD, come da sito: "The YMF262 sound chip was mostly sold in a 24-pin SOP package which is (unfortunately) hard to handle for soldering novices. It provides an 8bit parallel interface to the registers, requires a stable clock source of 14.318 MHz and one or two seperate DACs (YAC512). The parallel interface is directly connected to the "LCD" port of the MBHP_CORE module, most pins are shared with the LCD in order to reduce the IO pin count." http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_opl3_interconnections.pdf puoi saldare i fili anche sotto la scheda del core, oppure accoppiarli sui connettori femmina, creando un cavo a tre teste (femmine), FM <- core (centrale) -> lcd. notte.

Kart, i've PM you.

update. we are 3 for now, Totale: €251,17 (free shipping, no handling). dj3 you want to participate? sasha, your black on white lcd?

;D i'll PM you! well, now we must organize the order for the parts. i've see that you had just buy from your local! take all parts and ship to us! :P (jokin') i'll take a look to the x0x parts thread. for all 'non rare parts' if we want to organize a bulk we will use this thread? or we can use the rare one? or.. for order from USA, i think that a big order to EU, to split to many users after, it's good if splitting customers tax and incoming country tax it's less than an ordinary order, but this is obivius. taxes in my country are 20%, a little high, but i've pay only for very high value, over 450€ from USA. as i had say, if some one in the US want to take this job and split the orders, OR, if some one in EU have very low taxes and would split big order from USA, i think will be cool.

yes audiocommander, if the shipping cost are around this price i think like you, that buy directly it's better. so please who is interested, go to that site and control how much are shipping for him country.

well audiocommander, i'm ordering speakjest just in that site, as described on the first post, for italy shipping was 6$ just few days agò. now are 9$! ffkk! how this appned!?

news: we are 3 for now. items are for 180€ + or -. digikey say that they pay for IVA and i must pay for it when items will arrive. i'd asked them some questions about. there are 2 more persons pending, i will pm them and wait. when i'll calculate the exact additional cost for each one and all agree with this, i can assume in 2 weeks. see update at post n°1

14,**v + 5v it would be work?

Perfect Kart, this is a good idea, but there is a way to cross all orders to one? in ex. just giveing the same address to each one? i'll ask to digikey. well, i prefer that people send me the doc list too, so i can creat a clean docu. ;)

http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,10617.0.html here is the link of the start. we are collecting orders for DigiKey (it.digikey.com for now) to go over a value of 150€ for a free shipping. i will buy some optrex LCD (the old topic was about this) for 100€ + or -. in the link there are some my suggestions for the order, but all good and bad opinion are welcome, i'm totally open to previus experience, so if you are not in the bulk but want to say somthing about, please do it. i've suggested this two postal standards: a) insurance mail: http://www.poste.it/postali/assicurata/prezzi_estero.shtml b) priority mail: http://www.poste.it/postali/prioritaria/tariffe_estero.shtml i can send small package up to 2000g in a small boxes, square or cilindrical, like posters box. i list here the points required: send me a PM with: a) all the parts and in wich quatity you need, if you wrote the digikey n° or the prduct n° it will be cool. b) if you had just try to place an order on the digikey's site, wrote me how many € are and the WEB ID number & ACCESS ID number of the order. c) tell me your complete address. i'll go to the post office with the list of all addesses, and i will ask for eachone how much are the shipping, relative to the weight and the type of expedition requested. i need a way to calculate the wieght (we can think how). d) it would be good if you tell me how much are the taxes applied in you country for incoming intems from another country, and customs too. Here, in italy, we have 20% (IVA) + customers tax that is variable, they start from 5€. I've never paid for, but just from china (motherboard) 15€ on 100€, and from usa, but the value was 450€. e) explain me wich kind of paymant you can do, paypal, bank transfer, moneygram etc. f) say how soon you would like to arrange this order - the reason for d): if the order will be 250€ in ex. the IVA (if it will be applied, i hope NOT) will be splitted to all peoples, 20% of 250 it's 50. the rightest thing would be split in % of the previusly payed. hard to calculate. - the second reason for d): if in your country taxes are lowest than in italy, we can think about, but all this work will be pass from me to another person. i don't like this kind of passing through of an order because of responsability, but we can debate about not? - addendum: i've ask to digikey from where the items arrived. if they arrived from an EU country or IT 20% IVA is not applied at 99%. the order will be complete when i will calculate the additional costs (probable IVA), and all participants agree with this ones i will suggest just TWO shipping metod like described, Prority and Insurance. It will be change by the weight of the box.

sice we are try to palce an order for different parts on DIGIKEY, and my optrex order was on it, i've split this thread. this will be ONLY for SpeakJet. 24.99$ for each chip, i will pay 6$ for the shipping of all chips.

well, i think we can use one of this 2 postal's method: a) insurance mail: http://www.poste.it/postali/assicurata/prezzi_estero.shtml b) priority mail: http://www.poste.it/postali/prioritaria/tariffe_estero.shtml i can send small package up to 2000g in a small boxes, square or cilindrical, like posters box.