i think that Mr tippach has done quite a good job, well let s say that he s given the possibility to asio-less soundcard owners (most of pc users) to use their pcs for audio purposes, windows and steinberg didn t go so far, because they thought obviously it was not a good business. err am i going off topic? Asio4all is not an out of the box app, it often needs some tweaking, playboss, have you read the manual? how small was your buffer? simone