I'm building a stereo-SID and I'm already finished with the PCBs. For the SID 1.7xx a PIC18F452 is required, but some days before I ordered the stuff I've read that the SID V2 requires a newer PIC18F4520 so I've ordered 2 of them. While waiting for the PCBs and the PICs I was a bit shocked when i read that the SID V2 requires a more newer PIC18F4685. So I selled the 2 PIC18F4520 to Modularkomplex. But now I need 2 PIC18F4685 which are even harder to find and Modularkomplex, who is also building a SID, and I were discussing where to get some. Either we buy them from Farnell which is quite expensive because they are importing them from the US which costs 20$ extra, or we buy them from Midimike or Smash. Now there are two possibilities: 1. Midimike and Smash offer them in their shops, or 2. I've to start a bulk-order to compensate Farnell's shipping costs what will probably result in disturbing Midimike's and Smash' shops And as it's quite likely that the PIC18F4685 is required for the SIDV2 and as the SID V1.7xx does also work with the PIC18F4685, it's IMHO the best if Midimike and Smash start offering them in their shops. I don't want to be pushy towards Thorsten! No, not at all! I do really respect his work and i think that TK is really deserving respect. Not only for developping but also for the good support and the detailed descriptions on ucapps.de . What i want to do is exactly what visibleman described. Build it, and never open it again. ok - I wouldn't mind changing some wires, but I don't want buy new PICs as soon as SID V2 is released. my 2 cents. matthias