Gridracer Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hello there,as a complete newbie I started work on my midibox_seq project last weekend:Here is the panellayout: The Button LED Matrix is a must have for me. (singlecolour)Olthough it means awful lot of soldering.First I started my search for nice, affordable,illuminated buttons and found this ones, which are availabel at CONRAD in Germany for 1,83€http://www.sci.com.tw/PRODUCTS/switch/(R13)%20PUSH%20SWITCH/R13-529.htmI bought some to test them:They are NON tactile ones but still feel nice and they close contact after 1mm of travel.They use white LED;s with a coloured cover (blue, red, yellow, green)I know that I have to change the Button LED Matrix Circuit.I have someone who helps me to integrate a darlington array at the cathode lines.I will post the circuitplan soon but I cant't help with details as I did not create it myself.I know that I have to change DEFAULT_SRM_CATHODES_INV_MASK in setup_mbseq_v3.asmand some other values.All parts should arrive untill next week, and tonight I have to finish the frontpanel layout to send it to SCHAEFFER. Will post the .fpd file when ready.Now starting the coffee machine for a long working night.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveformer Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think for that money you find better buttons. Maybe the MEC buttons?You can put a LED in the MEC buttons and use a clear cap.Look better than Panel mounted buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Standard MECs are mucho clicky though... But yeh, I agree that for that price, I would be shopping around for a nicer switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Thanks for your ideas on this.I took quiet similar ones to the MECs into consideration:http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0727/0900766b807274fd.pdfI also had an eye on this ones, like in the ELKA Synths:http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=7;LA=6;OPEN=1;INDEX=0;FILENAME=C200%252FDIT1_DTL2%2523ITT.PDF;SID=26qwKbh6wQARoAAHRfiTo6b2ce586a39d2726cb054c0f4774f98bRegarding the look I like the ones I chose best, they remind me of classic sportscar taillights :)But I had big concerns regarding the "feel"so I spend one evening with pusing some samples of them connected to my beeping multimeter untill the cat went mad....... So for my person I can say that i like the feel of this buttons.And to me they have the advantage of being panel mounted just like the encoders I ordered.So with mounting the displays directly to the frontpanel I can get along without frontpanel circuitboard.As i build a desktop design it is easy to mount the module PCBs on the bottom plate, while the frontpanelcarries the buttons, encoders and displays. So I dont have to watch the alignment of the holes in the panel to any kind of circuitboard.Frontpanel .fpd file will be finished tonight and ordered tomorrow ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 So for my person I can say that i like the feel of this buttons.That, is priority number one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Frontpanel finished!!!!!! :Dhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/3237654035_907792173b.jpg?v=0now on to SCHAEFFER with it.need to get some sleep....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 When hotlinking from flickr you have to took out ?v=0 from the end of the link, and by using tags [img]your image URL[/img] you can embed the picture. Also, it is good idea if you post link for bigger images or link to your flickr account. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Monster :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Even I like how the displays look in center of sequencer, if I was you, I would always position display at top, so you never block the sight with your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Also, it is good idea if you post link for bigger images or link to your flickr account.All pics to be found here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gridracer/a lot more to come in the future.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I would always position display at top, so you never block the sight with your hands.That is an issue, but my thought was that the LED-Button-Matrix is like some sort of instrumentthat you play live like shown in the sneakpreview on the SEQ V3 mainpage.When doing something else than muting + unmuting, your hands are below the display on the encodersand GP buttons, while you can now view the steppositions of all tracks one the Matrix which is now uncovered.At least I hope it will work out like that...........I also think that having the displays in the middle provides a nice logical seperation of the differentelements on the panel.And finaly to me it just looks better.And that is also a killer argument..... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 ...I also think that having the displays in the middle provides a nice logical seperation of the differentelements on the panel.Agree.And finaly to me it just looks better.And that is also a killer argument..... ;)That is very valid argument, often prioritized over functionality. What can I say... I left my MBSEQ in final stage after TK released duo-color BLM. I just wanted to have it, more because it looks cool. It is not that I really need it. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Romantschuk Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I really like this design. :)I think Sasha has a good and rational point about the displays, but then again being creative should call for the interface that inspires you the most! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugfight Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 having the blm above the displays is no real problem, you don't really need feedback from the displays while tapping those buttons. i think that's kinda the point of having them, aside from the bling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 :) :) WORK IN PROGRESS: :) :)MORE:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gridracer/sets/72157613814527297/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin-X Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 This is the best looking seq i have seen to this date. Excellent done my compliments for the pro looks on this monster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Romantschuk Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Gorgeous. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 wow i thought it looked cheesy when i saw the first drawing (sorry), but the end result is outstanding. good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echopraxia Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Awsome! How much did the panel, buttons and wood cost?What type of wood is that called by the way?Can we see inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 That's perrrty :)I can see the future... years from now.. a newbie asking "why are there no pics in this thread?"offsite doco... </broken record> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 How much did the panel, buttons and wood cost?What type of wood is that called by the way?Can we see inside?Frontpanel was 198,-€ incl. of VATButtons 1,83€ eachWooden BOX 0,00 € :D a carpenter and very good friend of mine made this one for me, he usedALDER wood and oiled it with FLAXOIL. But the box could be done DIY for approx. 20-50€ (if you do not use the break out panel)I will post pics of the inside soon, what remains to do from today is wiring the panel to the boards andconnecting the displays :P I think then the interior starts to get interesting ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loziniak2 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Really nice. I also build a seq, now have problems with burning mios, but I hope it's temporal :-) I'll start a new thread when I'll decide whether to put lcds in the middle of panel or on top (found some good points here).good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That is one of the prettiest sequencers I`ve seen. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridracer Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 UP AND RUNNING! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DINSIDE:MORE:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gridracer/sets/72157613814527297/Here are my documents on this project, perhaps they might help someone,in addition I will post a "lessons learned thread" soon.EDIT:fixed LinkEDIT:moved attachments tohttp://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,13118.msg112147.html#msg112147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latigid on Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Excellent job, very tidy! Very blue! :)How about a video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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