Rave-TZ Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Long story short I bought the complete stock of an old Commodore dealer. 20+ tested SID chips (only 3 8580s) and 20+ working C64s (C64, C64B, 1 C64-SX, and a few C-128s). Also have TONS of accessories / test equipment. I love working on chiptunes and would love to adopt the SID sound. My workflow includes a Sid Station (Borrowed from a friend) and I just got a MSSIAH cart. I'm very familiar with my soldering iron but my chip burner is old and doesn't work with some of the new PIC chips. Despite my best attempts to understand what I need and how to assemble it, there are so many concurrent versions of the MIDIBOX SID that I'm having a difficult time sorting them out on my own. I want to build something that has a LCD display, easy controls, stored instrument settings, and all MIDI controllable. I get the impression that the MIDIBOX is my solution. While 1 SID chip would be enough, I wouldn't mind the full 8. Why limit myself when I have lots of these things? If someone could simply tell me which kits to buy in the USA, that would be fantastic. If there is anything I need outside these kits would be good to know too. On a side note, when I tested the 8580s, they seemed to be half the volume of the 6581s. Any reason for that? Thanks in advance! Me testing the SID chips pulled from non-functioning C64s with the MSSIAH cart. The working Commodores (about half the inventory) My SIDs Edited October 14, 2010 by Rave-TZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfit Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) I would love to buy the 3 8580 from you, and one 6581. Pictures like this make me so happy. :) Get yourself a coremodule and a sidmodule and go from there? If you grab it, like i did, on SmashTV you can get the PIC's preburnt with the bootloader and you won't need a pic programmer anymore for this. 8580 has lower volume? 8580 9v and 6581 12v. Be carefull, but you knew that :D Edited October 15, 2010 by misfit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Don't cannibalize that SX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) Don't cannibalize that SX! I don't cannibalize anything that works. The 20 SIDs came from busted machines. Loving the SX though with its 42 lbs, allegedly portable awesomeness. As for selling them, I am setting up a shop to sell most of the C64 inventory. I'll post when thats done. Mostly interested in getting some SID chiptunes up and running. Its super pristine under the dirt Edited October 15, 2010 by Rave-TZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Great score! I want to build something that has a LCD display, easy controls, stored instrument settings, and all MIDI controllable. I get the impression that the MIDIBOX is my solution. While 1 SID chip would be enough, I wouldn't mind the full 8. Why limit myself when I have lots of these things? If you want to use "the full 8", you might want to consider this: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/wilba_mb_6582 You could build it "stock" or use just the base PCB and build your own control surface/case, perhaps in a C64 breadbox case, i.e. like what this guy did: http://www.subatomicglue.com/sidl0g/ Also, I strongly recommend hanging on to all your C64 PSUs until you test which ones work well in a MIDIbox SID with all 8 SIDs... 8 SIDs draw a lot of current, some C64 bricks don't handle it well, or are noisy (on the audio or buzzy transformers). You might as well pick the least noisy of the lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I have an SX myself, but it's missing the keyboard cable and one of the keyboard latches is broken. Anyone have spares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) I guess my issue is knowing which parts to buy on http://www.avishowtech.com/mbhp/buy.html I need a full kit (programmed chips, boards, surface parts, etc) Lots of options here but a little confusing for someone just starting. Looking for a full 8 SID chip setup as standard as possible. Thanks. On a side note, I am starting to put some of this stuff on my online store. You can find it at rave-tz.com/store Edited October 15, 2010 by Rave-TZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 "As standard as possible" with 8 SIDs == mb6582 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technosoul Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I would be interested in buying 2 of your 6581's if you would like to sell. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 "As standard as possible" with 8 SIDs == mb6582 I understand that, but I see MB-6582 Baseboard PCB, MB-6582 CS PCB, MB-6582 Baseboard Parts Kit, and I don't see any mention of the MIDI DIN connectors, LEDs, etc. I want to build a MB 6582, I just need direction on which parts to get at the store http://www.avishowtech.com/mbhp/buy.html A list saying Get: This This and This so I can build it complete is what I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janis1279 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) http://www.avishowte...m/mbhp/buy.html ID 70 MB-6582 Baseboard Parts Kit you can see Parts List with the all included components for this kit, midi din connectors, too. May be I am wrong. : If MB-6582 CS PCB is not as a part of the kit , you need to buy leds and the other stuff separately. Any way you need read much more ... Regards, Janis Edited October 15, 2010 by Janis1279 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 From what I read I need MB-6582 Baseboard Parts Kit MB-6582 CS (control surface?)PCB LEDs Not on site: LED display knobs case Anything else I'm missing? BTW. Thanks for helping a guy who just found this yesterday. Reading up on this project is difficult since its an evolving project. Hard to tell what data fits where. I'll document my findings and post a n00b guild to building a MIDIBOX SID 2 when its all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 You'll have to get all of the parts for the control surface from somewhere else, as Smash doesn't stock those. You seem to have a bunch of SIDs, some C64 PSUs... I guess once you have the baseboard kit you're ready to go :) You don't *need* the CS for it to make sound and play .sid files etc, so tackle the baseboard first :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Thanks a ton. Can't wait! Very excited honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Also consider reading this building thread for the control surface, which contains a list of all parts necessary :-) (ps: shouldn´t we move it over to this forum section?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fussylizard Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Not 100% but a helpful list for the MB-6582 CS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazi Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I'm very interested in buying some of your 8580's :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I would be interested in buying 2 of your 6581's if you would like to sell. thanks I have them for sale here: http://www.rave-tz.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke64 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'm interested to buy two 8580. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave-TZ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'm interested to buy two 8580. I'm afraid I only landed 2 of those in my collection and I need them for my MIDIBox. I have plenty of cases, 6581s, complete computers, etc. that are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke64 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 No problem ... I found two SIDs yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Sushi Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Do you have any 6582's left? Im in need of 2 (or maybe more)... Thank you - and enjoy the plunge! :ahappy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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