i'm trying not to seem too stupid but it's all so new. i actually barely have a grasp on what MIOS studio is doing seeing as i don't do well will the software/programming side of things. i didn't mean to make it sound like i did the entire troubleshooting guide. that was my bad. i'm using all SmashTV's kits so i know that i don't have to program the PIC. are the "logs" the MIDI in and out monitoring screens? because if they are, i'm getting absolutely nothing in the MIDI IN screen. i have to wait a couple days until the optocouplers come in so i'm gonna have to try other things until then. i totally appreciate your guys' help and i don't want to turn you off to helping me... i'm trying my best to follow your steps Stryd... i took note of them long before i got to this point, just in case. :) i'm gonna start over and then get back to you. thanks again. one other thing, should i unplug the Banksticks and if not, should i build and connect the 2 sid modules before doing this or is only the core necessary?