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It's one of those things where you just try and see how it goes. There are other tricks too, such as RC termination or buffering. All need extra circuitry, so give it a go first.
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It's not a priority at the moment, sorry.
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For some reason I thought you only had an LED matrix. So you actually need:
- +5V
- 0V (ground)
- SO (serial out)
- SI (serial in)
- SC (serial clock)
- RC1 (latch for DOUT)
- RC2 (latch for DIN)
You could probably get away with sharing RC1 and RC2, but still that's more pins than a DIN5 has. Or did you power it somehow differently?
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Did you consider using the DIN8? Or do you plan to build a 16x16+X BLM?
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The three pins were intended to connect a MIDI port if the BLM wasn't used, hence using the standard MIDI pins and leaving the others floating. This was before the days of MIDIO/MIDI8. So it should work to connect, but yull deffo need some bodge wirez maaate!
Keep in mind that the SRIO signal can get dicey if the cables are long. This would be the idea of the Line Drivers.
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With regards to naming, I don't want to take the v4+ moniker away from Wilba ones. Although it's true that the version I've designed (with input from Adrian/TK./Peter/Bruno) does represent UI improvements and thus fits with the "plus" suffix as put forward by TK., any F4 Core version will run the V4+ firmware.
TK. created the hardware config "antilog," which is the name I use for PCB projects. You could also call it the latigid version, the andy version, whatever :).
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45 minutes ago, ilmenator said:
Peter, nice work! Also good to see a mini-TPD,
To differentiate from Peter's TPD (or your PCBs), the one built into the SEQ is called the "activity" matrix. This means we have a JA board (jog wheel + activity). When he has time, Peter intends to add some extra features to display. Not sure if they'll necessarily be compatible with the TPD.
45 minutes ago, ilmenator said:albeit this seems to have only a single color?
Well spotted! The colour choices on the smaller ones are quite limited, although it goes with the "clean" look of the UI.
45 minutes ago, ilmenator said:Are the UI schematics publicly available or do we need to reverse-engineer them based on the v4+ config file?
I'll probably put the matrix schem up at some point. For now, I'm happy to supply it to those who have purchased the PCBs (just Peter, Adrian H, TK. and lazy beta testers :P ) or to those who need troubleshooting advice.
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Ah, you want clock input. Not currently supported in the SEQ I think, but I believe it was done in the CV app? You can ask in the general firmware updates thread.
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2 hours ago, gohan2a said:
- JCI port not used here (it's planned to use these lines for DIN Sync Clock and Start/Stop input in future)
Correct. Clocks and start/stop (i.e. "DIN sync") are sent over the DOUT shift registers. JCI is not used.
Check in the CV config:
Quote- Clk: selects 1 of 8 clock outputs (available at a dedicated DOUT shift registered which has been configured with the CLK_SR parameter in the MBSEQ_HW.V4 file). Each clock has an individual clock divider, or can optionally be used to output a Start/Stop signal
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I don't understand the question sorry. Gates and clocks go through the DOUT (SRIO) chain.
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9 hours ago, Phatline said:
good input, will integrate that!
If you use a non-standard protocol, consider using a different connector e.g. a DIN5 240/270 degree pin pattern.
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I would say it's about 50:50 SMT/THT. I also don't like squinting too much, and that's why the resistor/cap packages are 1206, the transistors and diodes SOT-23 and the chips SOIC or larger. This can be easily done without a microscope. I recommend to use a decent light source and check the joints after.
People who've never done SMT before are often surprised by how much quicker it can be than through hole. No lead forming, no flipping the board (if you bottom solder), no parts sliding away and no lead clipping. Tack one pad, align the part, finish the other pads. Use a low angle with the iron and heat the pad rather than the pin. Even use a solder sucker to remove excess solder.
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At the moment that's the idea, yes. What customisation did you have in mind?
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1 hour ago, encoder said:
Do I really need the LCD?
Recommended at least for building/debugging.
1 hour ago, encoder said:- yes, that DB plug looks fun, but originally, I wanted to keep the bankstick inside the enclosure, do not want to swap them
No worries, just solder onto a piece of perfboard etc.
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Hello, welcome to the forum. I'll try to answer your questions.
13 hours ago, encoder said:- I'd like to build the total minimum version, because I can create a handsome little M4L editor to it an with this, I can store the presets with the Live projects. For this little setup, If I understood correctly, I need only the core PCB, the SID PCB, a power supply, maybe a bank stick and the SID, am I right?
Check out the "Step A" build. This is the minimum control surface http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid_cs.html
13 hours ago, encoder said:- Is it possible to solder create a small PCB, instead of using the BankStick? Is it easy to re-write the presets? 127 patches are far more that enough for me.
You can even use a DB plug for a bankstick:
http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_bankstick.html
13 hours ago, encoder said:- I have a PICkit 3 programmer, can I use this to program the PIC?
Cross-reference the list of compatible devices with the PICs you intend to use. Note that only the initial bootloader flash is done with a programmer, thereafter over MIDI/MIOS Studio.
13 hours ago, encoder said:- About the power supply, let's say, a 12V DC PSU, 1000mAh is enough to power both boards?
For two SIDs only? Probably okay.
13 hours ago, encoder said:- I'm a bit confused about the engines thing. So, can I use the module without the controls? I mean, can you access all of the parameters VIA CC or SySex?
Step A CS should work.
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1 hour ago, Antichambre said:
It seems you put CV/Gate Outputs :) Great!
Add it in the Main features list, this is an important point.
Actually only inputs are supported, you'll need a converter to use CV/gate. In principle it could be done as all expansion headers are there. I don't think the software handles CV and there is not much push from our side to squeeze it into the current box. A bigger unit might work.
On that point, this represents another Core with DIN MIDI onboard. We could consider other "stackable" add-ons for small synths or controllers.
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Generally try to provide as much info as possible here. This way the people trying to help you don't have to go looking though everything. The multiple info on this pedal or that and how these people do it isn't helping me help you.
You have the schematic on how a MIDI in will work, you need to find out what your pedal does and how it supplies the +5V. Otherwise you need another power adapter to do so. My guess is that it happens with the ring terminal. Two options were provided to you to arrange the optocoupler on a known PCB design or a piece of perfboard/protoboard.
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Shoddy work! Not only do they use a non-standard connector, they use non-standard wiring and make an external optocoupler necessary. What happens if you get the connections wrong and plug a 15V CV in there?
How did you hope to power the optocoupler? Is there +5V on the ring terminal (measure with a voltmeter/multimeter)?
I would assemble the parts on a piece of protoboard and mount in a small box. I thought the lump in the cable was an inline DIN female, meaning you could extend with a longer cable if you needed. If that's above you, you could use an IIC module PCB. I have one if you need or you could upload the brd file to OSH park. There, you could use a DIN female, the opto, diode etc. are already present, then connect jack to header J4:
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I wasn't aware of the difference, I don't know much about micromatch. For the SEQ, it's very unlikely you'd need to connect/disconnect. If it was necessary, there's always the 0.1" standard pinheader, just a bit more effort and more clunky.
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Hi Bruno,
As the connectors are not intended to stack, I suggest to use paddle connectors on both of wCore/USB. Both installed on the top of the PCB and wired straight through. This works well as seen in Peter's video. Maybe other connectors are possible (?) but not necessary here I think.
Does that answer the question?
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6 hours ago, Smithy said:
This question was asked on the midiphy Facebook Page.
Anyone know the answer?
Can you have different timings on each track?
another idea would be to use the delay on that track with triplet timing. Not sure about odder (1/5, 1/7) tuplets though.
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Hi Bruno,
The operation is quite different in that the group/track/layer buttons are now accessed through the Selection row. The selection row function is in turn switched by the 8 buttons around the larger wheel knob. So now you would choose Track; this gives access to the tracks on all 16 buttons. The Group structure (G1/2/3/4) is preserved to maintain compatibility. A big benefit is that multiple selections are now possible, which would have been quite difficult with the old workflow. Another benefit is that the Selection row can stay active while using the GP buttons above. Layers are accessed in a similar way. Hopefully the labeling is more intuitive now, and users don't feel limited to 3 layers of trig/para. Bookmarks are now brought out to the front panel.
With the MEC buttons, there's functionality not explicitly present in the v4 (e.g. Live). Also, each encoder has an independent switch, so no one should run out of buttons. Normally the switches would be assigned to acceleration though.
Maybe Peter can fill in anything I've missed.
Best,
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You can plan for around 700€ all up, including the case and Mouser order. Not fixed yet though.
Best,
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midiphy SEQ v4+
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Would need to talk to Adrian about different colours. It might be that the cases are ordered in low (e.g. <10) quantity, which could leave some room for customisation. Very likely we'll keep a stock of "standard" colours though. It's too much to keep too many options, especially considering we start with two possible variants (LH/RH).
I'll leave you to check the datasheets if you're interested. The switches have 1mm travel. 19.0mm caps are suggested.
https://www.apem.com/int/multimec-3f-287.html
http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/700000-724999/705191-da-01-en-MULTIMEC_KAPPE.pdf