Shadyman Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Not to put off the current chat room, but it would be a lot easier (for me, at least) to be able to connect with IRC. Here are some reasons, from my point of view:Leaving a window open just to have chat is kind of a pain, and also a hogThere's no visual notification of a new message, only sound. (I have sounds turned off so as not to disturb others)I already have an IRC app running (Many people will have [Windows] MIRC, Trillian, Pidgin, etc, or [linux] xIRC, Kopete, Pidgin, etc)You can get IRC clients for many different platformsWe could always use PJIRC (http://www.pjirc.com/main.php) for the "Chat" page, which would allow us to connect by way of other applications, too ;DJust a suggestion ;D--Shadyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugfight Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 eemmall i can say is that human beings are not always completely coherent with themselves and what they say and like..i mean here we like straight well done electronic things, MIOS improved for low latency, modular systems and so on..well the chat is the chat is where you go and relax after a soldering session or even chat while soldering, where you laugh for stupid jokes and discover new things, it can get harsh from time to time but there is usually a cool atmosphere and respect.Now I (we?) got used to it, like i need to be flushed from time to time, and believe me, as a linux user i hate flash! But i got used to it, it s my beloved flushy chat!We had to move to an IRC channel when the server went down, and it was better, it worked better but...Anyway i am not against IRC we could start a poll and see what people think about it..Simone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Before the Flash chat was introduced, I never knew (or bothered to find out) how to connect to the existing #midibox IRC channel, which had been around for years. When the flash-based chat was added, I started using it because it was so easy to access. I am sure a lot of people new to MIDIbox also try it out, so I'm sure it gets more people in there than #midibox ever did.If you can find a Flash-based chat that interfaces to IRC that would be ideal - I'm voting for the current Flash-based chat purely because it's there, within the browser, easy for everyone to find and use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Not to put off the current chat room, but it would be a lot easier (for me, at least) to be able to connect with IRC. Heya. The current chat implementation is a solution to problems with using IRC, sorry. If it helps: 1) Use a tabbed browser2) The icon flashes3) Me too4) Isn't it the same for flash?@wilba: FWIW you can use chatzilla as an IRC client within FF, so that helps from your angle... Not sure about other browsers though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I'm a big fan of IRC and I can understand how people hate to be flushed all the time. Besides, as midiboxers we tend to like custom stuff - IRC is more customizable than good old flushy. I'd love to see the chat go "back" to IRC, BUT... I don't think SmashTV or Twin-X have the time to browse all day to hunt down a decent IRC client that doesn't use Java, doesn't crash, ... So, shadyman, go find (program) one, that'll do the job and has severe advantages over good old flushy, test it thoroughly and write a rather detailed description in this thread and I think you might just get a different kind of response ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_xen Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I started using the flash chat because it was there.when it went down not too long ago, I ended up hunting down a useable (but crappy) IRC client for OSX.I actually prefer ol' Flushy over IRC, just cause it's there and easy to get to. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyman Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 2) The icon flashesDoesn't for me :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyman Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I found Mibbit (http://www.mibbit.com/), an AJAX-based IRC client, which you can embed in an IFRAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Heya. The current chat implementation is a solution to problems with using IRC, sorry. Persistent, aren't ya? ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I'Ve been toying with mibbit before and must say it's really nice. Still, it doesn't defeat the arguements that tend to come up against IRC in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 What's up with this chat thing now? Has a decision been made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 The decision against IRC was made a long time before this poll.Heya. The current chat implementation is a solution to problems with using IRC, sorry. Everyone involved is well aware of people's (often uninformed) opinions, and they are always taken into account; so no amount of polls, nagging, begging, suggesting, asking, or otherwise discussing IRC vs flashchat vs whatever, will change the situation any. Maybe in future there will be an IRC chat, maybe flashy will return, maybe we will chat via carrier pigeon, maybe not :)Patience is a virtue :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 The decision against IRC was made a long time before this poll.Everyone involved is well aware of people's (often uninformed) opinions, and they are always taken into account; so no amount of polls, nagging, begging, suggesting, asking, or otherwise discussing IRC vs flashchat vs whatever, will change the situation any. Maybe in future there will be an IRC chat, maybe flashy will return, maybe we will chat via carrier pigeon, maybe not :)Patience is a virtue :)To add to that. There's still the #midibox channel on Efnet.org. My work proxie blocks it so i'm guessing a few people will be in the same boat. I connected last night and think the room was full off just bots. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Yes that's where the trouble was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hooray, the chat is back ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes, but same trouble here as before. Sometimes the forum is just unavailable, e.g. last night around 23:00 CET. I'd prefer to have the forum always online over having a chat, honestly, if it was to be chosen between the two.Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 e.g. last night around 23:00 CET.That's probably when the updates were installed ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yeh, forum hasn't gone down for me at all, ever since the updates :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin-X Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Updates are now installed automagically every day 23:00 cet.Forum can be offline sometimes.The chat is not a hey lets wait for several hours.It flushes it records pretty fast so you can't read back very far. I do not see the use of sitting there so long if your not intending to join the discussion. But hey who am i to tell you ;)Go sit if you like but no guarantees ok!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Great work twinny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Good to hear that the down-time was caused by the update! 23:00 is a good time to go to bed anyway ;).Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyman Posted June 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hmm, as a new option, check out the (fully embeddable) Mibbit, it runs on AJAX. No Java, No Flash, just good ol' Javascript and XML ;Dhttp://www.mibbit.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin-X Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hmm, as a new option, check out the (fully embeddable) Mibbit, it runs on AJAX. No Java, No Flash, just good ol' Javascript and XML ;Dhttp://www.mibbit.com/We are not using IRC period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 i voted for irc, it's cozy and it works... freenode.net possibly? there is some smart people on that network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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