Melonenmonster Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Hello TK, hello midibox community,the monodeck II designed by monolake aka. Robert Henkeis finally done. Control software development (which is done by Robert and is runnning on the host computer) will continue and for sure see refinement after the experience from the first gigs, but the device itself is finished.Thank you very much for your hard and nice work.MIOS and MIDIBOX are a great platform. Have a nice life, you deserve it! http://www.monolake.de/monodeck2.htmlRalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Holy crap dude that's a monster!! :DI'm really interested in your RGB LED driver, is there any chance of you sharing that? I've got 150 of those things here and I was planning on writing a driver later on when I get to the CS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbrown Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow, that is awesome look'n!! Very pretty lights!! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 *slaps himself*I should've searched your previous posts :) http://www.suckow.de/ralf/ledmatrix4x20/index.htmlThanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I wonder if those lights aren't too bright? At least on the fotos it looks like they might blind your eyes in such a way that it's hard to see the buttons / read the panel any more, at least in dim light.It does look very cool, though!Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 True, but those LED's have software controlled dimming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Hi Ralf/Robert,this is one of the most beautiful controllers I've ever seen - I'm impressed!The design demonstrates your full passion for this baby :)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLP Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 wow. thats really beautiful!isn't it a bit hard to carry? hey I've got a really light MB16 lying next to me.I think you've got a better overview with only 6 sliders, 6 pots and 8 buttons........wanna trade ? ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTE Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 :o Amazing workVery nice !!!!!RegardsMTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melonenmonster Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 *slaps himself*I should've searched your previous posts :) http://www.suckow.de/ralf/ledmatrix4x20/index.htmlThanks!!The software has been rewritten for the monodeck:- based on midibox64 (not ...e) since we need no encoders but lots of pots- the color of one, four, or all LEDS are set using MIDI notes- there is a mapping which lets the buttons and LEDs be related to the same note number, with a nice numbering scheme over the whole device, which compensates for the anarchistic wiring- the bitmap calculation is done when the note arrives, so that the multiplexing routine is simpler and faster- software dimming (1:1 ... 1:4, more is not possible since it flickers)- two cores are linked, the software is modified so that one core is responsible for LEDs/Buttons 0..63, the other for 64..127- the schematic is a bit different, because the LEDs are RGB, not RGBB- I disabled the button debouncing, else the LEDs would flickerIn general we would publish the info, IMHO, if somebody isinterested, there's just no time at the moment, Live6 is in the beta phase, and then I'm on vacation until End of September - lucky me 8)Ralf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melonenmonster Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I wonder if those lights aren't too bright? At least on the fotos it looks like they might blind your eyes in such a way that it's hard to see the buttons / read the panel any more, at least in dim light.Best regards, ilmenatorYes, on the photos they appear a bit lighter than in reality.And you are right, a 1:4 software dimming is not enough.The maximum setting allows playing in direct sun, 1/4 of thatis still too bright for the night. So, Robert invented and added a hardware dimming which is a separate circuit for each color: a square signal generator with adjustable busy cycle, which turns the enable inputs of each of the shift registers on and off, with a relatively high frequency, to avoid flicker. This not only allows to setup the monodeck for performances at night, it also allows to ajust the relative color brightness, which is important for nice clean colors and the white balance.Based on this setting, Robert can now fine-tune the brightness,depending on the situation, with the software, quickly. Ralf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I disabled the button debouncing, else the LEDs would flickerThis is something what I'm planning to solve in one of the next MIOS versions - currently the same SR scanning routine is used for DIN and DOUT registers, which means, when the DINs are temporary disabled due to the cheap debouncing method, the DOUT registers won't be updated.The solution is to add a second scan routine which only services the DOUTs so long the debouncing delay is active.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monolake Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hello !!! Yes, it is done. After almost one year of hard (brain) work. I will spend all september with the preparation of a new Monolake live set which is to be performed using the Monodeck. The plan is to get rid of the computer on stage and to run the show entirely from the hardware controler, even without the need to watch a computer screen. I might contribute / answer questions here at the forum but I am not sure how much time I will find for this. We will see....Thorsten, thank you for all your work & knowledge - much appreciated.Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thanks for the extra info guys!I understand that you're a bit busy to document your findings, but if you could just make the code available, it could serve as a starting point for others... I'm not the only one working on a LED matrix at the moment :)I hope you'll record the show for us too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mess Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 This is something what I'm planning to solve in one of the next MIOS versions - currently the same SR scanning routine is used for DIN and DOUT registers, which means, when the DINs are temporary disabled due to the cheap debouncing method, the DOUT registers won't be updated.The solution is to add a second scan routine which only services the DOUTs so long the debouncing delay is active.Best Regards, Thorsten.Aah, this would explain why my ledmatrix keeps flickering :)I thought I made some kind of wiring errorvery interesting topic :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappajackson Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Ye gods man! What a badboy...Good work on the Led Matrix, I'm currently planning a 7x8 button grid for triggering clips in ableton (6 channels and one coloumn for the scene triggers) so yours will be an invaluable resource! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappajackson Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I don't suppose we could get a video of you jamming with it could we? :-* pretty please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbrown Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I don't suppose we could get a video of you jamming with it could we? :-* pretty please?I too, would like to see that thing in action!! ;D thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel3 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Sick man, Very sick!! That's one of the baddest MIDIbox controllers I have seen yet. Killer job on the layout too!Good job-tel3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intellijel Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Looks great and I like the fact that it was built to his specific needs and way he plays (or will learn to play) live.One thing that is missing (if he does intend to use this without looking at his computer screen) is the LCD display!? Especially now with features such as Automap (by novation) it would have been really useful to have a display setup that would tell you the name of tracks, name of clips playing...maybe even a sample/preset browser for loading up your step sequencer or programming synths/fx?I guess I need to build my onw ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monolake Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 One thing that is missing (if he does intend to use this without looking at his computer screen) is the LCD display!? Especially now with features such as Automap (by novation) it would have been really useful to have a display setup that would tell you the name of tracks, name of clips playing...maybe even a sample/preset browser for loading up your step sequencer or programming synths/fx?I thought about this but realised that then again I would end up staring at some kind of display. And this is what i want to avoid. I figured out that I do not need so much different sounds on stage and that it is more important for me to spend a lot of time designing each single sound well enough and to work on the grooves and effects. In the stage situation I am fine with a limited amount of sounds and limited access to parameters because I do not want to end up with endless varitions of a sound but more focus on structure. For this task I do not need the display. The main element is the 8 channel / 5 slot matrix which is my playground for each single piece. I have enough to do on stage playing with the possibilites of this matrix.The control over some sound parameters is secondary.Currently I work on the assignement of the three knobs and the toggle button I have on each channel. I made lots of efforts to create interesting morphing sounds but finally figured out it does not help me so much musically. I was able to morph from some sine wave plonc! sound to variuos hihats on one channel, but then I realised all I really need musically in this channel is a hihat. So i dismissed that complex morph in favour of simple hihat parameters ( fitering, decay, hold time ) and the result is much better.There is always this impulse to add more and more features, but I am quit happy that Monodeck II forces me to really think about the structure instead of getting lost in possibilites. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 fantastic work, guys, robert i love your work - can't wait to hear what you make with this badboy :Dso actually it's more a sequencer interface than anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetfidget Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Certainly looks more professional than monodeck 1 ;D (no offence)or my half-built hunk of junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinnsyk Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I can say only a few things:Keep up the good work on Ableton (big fan of the program!)Keep using your monodeck, and build many more midiboxes ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hi RobertGreat work!!! I've question about python script. I can't debug python file from Ableton Live. I want write (exactly rewite) their python file (MIDI remote Scripts), because I want better midi feedback from all buttons (and mostly clips) of Ableton Live program. Do you knew how to break this phyton file for editing?Thanks for replyLX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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