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Hmmm, interesting... you rreally got the service manual? In the service manual you normally find a list with all the parts used in the d8b, often called BOM = bill of materials. In the schematics you need to identify the faders with their corresponding part IDs. Take the IDs and cross check in the BOM for the corresponding material name. Normally you should find there a part number and may be also the supplier. If you got this, then let's proceed. Cheers, Skunk

Hi Fabian, was meinst Du mit "Ausverkauf"??? Verhökern die die letzten CRMs und dann ist Ende damit, oder...? Grüße, Skunk

Jeroddumas, if you get the datasheet, I'd be interested in a copy. ;) But I don't think Mackie will give them away. I had bad experience with Mackie getting detailed HW informations. They more or less ignore such enquiries. They want you to buy their equipment, not to clone it. ;D Cheers & Good Luck, Skunk

Hi Roger, entry ok with me. As discussed we will have a seperate conversation for the V-Faders. ;) Cheers, Skunk

Hi Roger, as discussed the order for the knobs: 32x FK13x25 black 32x FK13x25 silver Still both versions since I don't know yet the layout colours of my console. ??? But this is peanuts compared to the cost of the 32 coreless faders... :P Cheers & see you hopefully soon in your studio ;D, Skunk

Hi P-Cord, Überweisung geht morgen raus. Danke für's Organisieren & viele Grüße, Skunk

Hi P-Cord, Super-Idee! Ich hatte schon vor längerer Zeit mit dem Gedanken gespielt, einige Curtis-Chips zu beschaffen, aber die Kosten einer Einzel-Bestellung haben mich erst mal abgeschreckt. Mit einer Sammelbestellung macht's dann aber Sinn. Ich checke mal meinen Bedarf, auch evtl. für andere CEMs, und gebe Dir die nächsten Tage in diesem Post Bescheid. Viele Grüße, Skunk

Hi Cheater, the P&G sample was shipped directly from P&G UK (free of charge) since the german subsidary ignored all my requests, so I complained directly at the headquarter -- and got suddenly support. The ALPS samples are grepped directly at the german distributor ALBS which is located close to me. I'll work together with these guys for some future projects. Right now both manufacturers show the same high quality level. I'm just on the way to develop new motor fader controller, so the final results will show which is better. Cheers, Skunk

Hi Cheater, yes, P&G is well known for this. I'm currently developing a dedicated Fader Control Unit and have a test sample of two ALPS faders (standard DC as well as coreless DC) and one P&G (PGFM3200) with me. Quality of all seems very comparable, but the P&G 3200 is double the price of the ALPS V coreless version. So the time will show which solution is the better one. Cheers, Skunk

Hi Roger, wenn ich die ganzen Posts zu dem Thema verfolge, frage ich mich, ob sich der ganze Aufwand eigentlich noch rentiert. Wäre es da nicht einfacher, auf problemlos verfügbare und mechanisch ohne Klimmzüge einsetzbare Displays zu gehen. Die man zudem hier in Zentral-Europa bekommt und nicht den Umweg über China machen muß. Cheers, Skunk

Hi, as soon as you're using motor faders, you need much more. Watch out for some corresponding forum posts. Cheers, Skunk

Hi folks, it looks like the experiment to change human beings into machines was successfull! Hopefully you didn't forget how to talk a human language! ;D Cheers, Skunk

Hi Markus, ich glaube, Julian trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf. Deine Anforderungen benötigen keinen PIC-Controller oder SID. Das ist mit Sicherheit mit einer Handvoll OPs und sonstiger billiger Bauteile (Ts, Rs, Cs) als einfache analog aufgebaute Schaltung zu realisieren. Es gibt Tonnen von Schaltungsvorschlägen für solche Dinge, z.B. in diversen Büchern des Franzis-Verlags oder älteren Ausgaben der Topp-Reihe -- oder einfach auf'm Web, z.B. in den DIY pages für Synths etc.. Ich denke, das Ganze ist für unter 10 Euro zu realisieren. Etwas Analog-Kenntnisse solltest Du allerdings haben, um die Schaltungs-Auslegung zu verstehen und sauber hinzubekommen. Cheers & Good Luck, Skunk

Think about the Linux story and how the Linux community grew up. And what's about Linux today? A lot of people make a lot of money around Linux. RedHat, Suse, Debian etc. Nevertheless, Linux is an open source project. It's under the terms of the GNU General Public License. What did Thorsten do? He took a great decision: he did it exactly the same way as Linus Thorwalds. He has put MIOS under the same GNU license -- to be found in every MIOS source code header. Consider to have a situation that is not so far away from the Linux story. How might MIOS look like in ten years? And who might earn money with systems around MIOS in ten years? Linux is getting a real competitor to Windows today since it was driven by a huge and growing community -- also with commercial aspects. May be MIOS derivates could become a big competitor in the next ten years to the Mackie, Digicontrol and other well known audio equipment operating systems -- also considering commercial aspects. Just as a thought... I think Thorsten has the right to close this discussion with a clear final statement. He's the "father" of MIOS and the MIDIbox HW around the CORE and the 16F452 & Co.. Cheers, Skunk

Hi all, I don't understand the endless discussions. If somebody wants to sell selfmade equipment in Ebay or whereever, why not? There is no real damage for anybody, nobody is hurt etc. And it's clearly in the decision of the person selling the equipment how to setup the price level. The only thing one should pay attention is the story not to violate trademarks. But this is not the case here, so what? BUT: It starts getting interesting if somebody copies 1:1 the MIDIbox boards and sells them professionally as his own work, not mentioning the MIDIbox source respectively the owner ship of TK. This won't be funny anymore. I think we have other problems in the world to solve... :) Cheers, Skunk

Hä hä hä, heißt nich umsonst "außen HUI, innen pfui.."! ;D Tschuldigung... :P

Well, I got more details regarding legal issues, but there is a limit to "broadcast" all these informations since it's going deep inside the companies, including the former Emagic. Fact is: there are legal limitations (ref the C4) between Mackie and Steinberg, and both, Steinberg as well Mackie, confirmed this on the exhibition. But the information handling is very strange and pretty invisible as soon as you start asking direct questions. Everybody tells you a bit, but not the whole truth -- either because they just don't know, or because they don't want. At the end of the day I don't take care about all this "Messe-Blahblah" -- as long as I get the C4 MIDI doc from somebody. ;) Cheers, Skunk

Yep, stimme Roger da zu. Das Ganze könnte sich allerdings gravierend ändern, wenn meine Motorfader Control Unit fertig werden sollte. Pro Motorfader kommt nur noch eine I²C-Schnittstelle raus, und ich muß mal mit Thorsten checken, ob die CORE unter diesen Voraussetzungen statt der MF mit 8 Fadern jetzt per I²C 9 Fader Control Units frißt. Da die PWM-Last von der CORE genommen und dann von den einzelnen Fader Control Units erledigt wird, sollte die CORE noch Platz & Zeit für "Nummer 9" (oder womöglich 10, oder...) haben. Theoretisch... Muß noch das SW-Interface mit Thorsten abklären, bevor ich mich da zu weiteren Aussagen hinreißen lasse. Bin da erst am Anfang von MIOS. Alles schön der Reihe nach, bzw. : Gut MIDIbox will Weile haben, bzw. auf gut schwäbisch: Noome nett hudla! ;D Cheers, Skunk

Hi, well, I had a long discussion on the Frankfurt Music Exhibition two weeks ago -- directly with a Mackie service guy. First surprising answer on my question: shouldn't be a problem to get the C4 midi implementation doc.! He pointed me to his collegue in the US who's responsible for the Control and C4, I contacted him, still waiting for feedback. I din't succed for all other channels that I contacted till now. Nobody is using a C4 -- or obtains the documentation. BTW: I also checked in Frankfurt with Steinberg people for a future implementation of the C4 in Cubase SX. Result: no way, legal issues with Mackie. Logic is the prefered C4 DAW SW. Cheers, Skunk

Wow, what a hot link, Moxi! 8) Thanks for this hint! Cheers, Skunk

Hi Roger, ooops, sorry, misinterpreted your post with the order deadline (had a heavy two days business trip behind me, my brain was not cleared up yet ;D. Pull back the fader knobs. :P Cheers, Skunk

Hi Roger, 32x FK13x25 blackchrome 32x FK13x25 silverchrome Don't know my final layout colors yet, so I'll take both, I think. I'll call you sunday evening... Cheers, Skunk

Hmmm, interesting approach of a modular system. I'm also a friend of modular systems, but this new toy is a bit too "micro" in my opinion. Looks like LEGO... :) Cheers, Skunk

I have a 200W stepper motor in my stock. Just thought about to use it as a decoder. A bit oversized, may be... ;D ;D ;D Hey, this forum is creating crazy ideas like hell... never seen this before. God bless the MIDIbox engineering force, an amazing community... 8) Cheers, Skunk

Hi Smash, livin in good old Germany. No hurry to send me a xtal and caps, I've more than enough in my black boxes. But you could answer my PM since you could earn some money doing this! 8) Cheers, Skunk