misfit Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Just found a box on ebay. http://viewitem.eim.ebay.se/MIDIbox_SID_V1_Synth__Commodore_64_Synth_/140473459759/item Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 799eur + 50eur shipping. What a bargain. I love the screw heads. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunk Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 with black screws it would be worth 1400 € minimum... :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRock Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 That's a nice looking box. I want a faceplate like that! That's about what you would have to charge to make a profit off of them... :devil: Notice it says :MIDIbox SID is a non-commercial & "DIY-only" project." First thing right below the You-Tube Vid? It also says the possibility to control up to 4 SIDs... V1? Only 2 Core Modules? I wonder if he used Wilba's PCB/Separate Cores or made up his own PCB? Or just reselling it... Ungrateful Bastard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 It being a V1 it's most likely individual PCBs. Yes, V1 only supported 4 cores with one SID module each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 thiz suckz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iZZE Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 :getlost: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antix Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Whit black screws it is out of market....no price for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) couldnt resist posting on youtube - mb the seller does not even know the intellectual property status... Edited November 4, 2010 by Hawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Stop getting your panties in a bunch. Selling one MIDIbox on eBay is not considered breaking any non-commercial license. Asking more than what you would be willing to pay doesn't change anything. Before you start mouthing off about "intellectual property" and telling people they're "breaking rules", get your facts straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Wilba, wtf, why do you protect this guy - he charges more than double than its worth - in my eyes that is commercial intent, TK. wrote in the rules that he will deny overpriced sale requests and if this not overpriced, i don´t know what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I will relax the rules, some official words about this topic soon. Of course, you are still allowed to state your opinions ;) Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Ok, i really do not want to be in conflict with you guys, you have given me too much ;-). Just removed the youtube comment... but in my opinion this deal is bad and we need :super: to clean the world from evil :) Edited November 4, 2010 by Hawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I'm not protecting this guy, I'm just stating facts. Selling a one-off, custom made MIDIbox for any price is not an example of commercial intent. You don't know exactly how much this cost him to build in parts costs alone, paying customs duty to import some stuff (e.g. buying a panel from Schaeffer and then paying VAT/customs duty on it as well), or maybe how many C64s he had to buy just to get one working SID. Veroboard and wire is cheaper than a custom made control surface PCB, but that doesn't mean he should give it away. I agree with TK... people are welcome to give opinions about these things, comment on whether it's overpriced or a bargain. I'm just saying there's no need to get so uptight about one-off sales and rant about breaking the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRock Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) or maybe how many C64s he had to buy just to get one working SID. Ha Ha Ha! No kidding! Plus the couple I fried cause I'm an OGRE! :pinch: I have a little SID graveyard. I stopped scratching X in them and started scratching R.I.P. Poor, little, dead bastards. :bye: Yeah. By the time all is said and done I'll have spent $600-$700 easy (including "learning" costs too) Not to mention the weeks of entire days worth of time I've put in to this project (Which is nothing compared to you GURUs!) :sorcerer: It's cool. I don't really care one way or another. I'm just trying to be a good little MidiBoxer and tow the line. You MidiBox Masters are the ones that really put all the time, effort and genius in to these brilliant little machines. I'm just grateful to be allowed to participate in this. If you told me I had to sell it today I would. If you told me I was never ever ever ever allowed to sell it, that'd be cool too. It's whatever you want. I got a whole truckload of respect for you guys TK, Wilba, nILs, Seppoman, Smash... You guys did all the hard work and paved the road for a noob like me to come in and follow your map and ask questions and build a MBSID and pat myself on the back for being a synth building MadMan. So I don't know this dude's story and I don't care. If it don't bother you, then it don't bother me. :thumbsup: Edited November 6, 2010 by JRock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I think, people should ask for permission here first. It makes it easier to keep an eye on "the market" and to keep them from stretching the definition of one-off... If lots of sid got sold, people might treat it as a commercial product and deny their own responsibility and demand better support etc. ON the other hand, lots of sold units means lots of recognition (as seen with the X0Xbox). You Gurus deserve this fame, but it comes with a lot of extra work with the new "customers". If you told me I had to sell it today I would haha, sorry but NO way! You can pry it loose from my cold dead hands ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reboot Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 do you think the seller will give 50dol for the forum ? it would be nice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganchan Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 i remember that guy building his midibox. the panel have some imperfection but is probably self made, or made by someone on the forum, as i can remember, he is (or was) a member. if you translate the words, you can read "this is my own personal midibox and i will not sell others, it's self made and unique" etc. etc. i can't say if the price is too high, probably no one will buy it, or someone will.. who knows :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iZZE Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 If you look out what they pay for elektrons sidstation... i think someone may buy it :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 my brain processed that matter in a low priority background task for the last days... and my first outrage has been quite shifted... the point is, that we will never be able to control what is being sold on a private basis between the people out there... we may be angry and blame profitmakers, but it will be incredibly hard to stop them. and legal effort is never nice effort. heck... I guess it would even be quite difficult to shut down a chinese (no offense intended) manufacturer cloning TKs and Wilbas code and designs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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