Wilba Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 I have arranged to import 2000 of these encoders:http://en.soundwell.cn/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProductInfoExhibit.html?ProductInfoExhibit_ProductID=c373e91a7c13d8c38f6acbc483ecd9ba&ProductInfoExhibit_isRefreshParent=falseand distribute to the MIDIbox community in lots of 100.The specific part number is EC162102E1B-HA1-006, so according to the drawing, the "L" dimension is 20mm, "a" is 12mm, "W" is 7mm, "D" is 8.9mm (takes M9 nut), the shaft is "FB-TYPE" (standard D-shaft type with notch at end like picture), 24 detents, 24 resolution.I have fully tested samples of this exact encoder with MIOS and they are exactly the same (electrically) as ALPS STEC16B, the encoders from Voti (which come from Electronics China and which I've used before on MB-6582) and (I assume) all other types of 16mm-wide encoders which look like this one (like you see in many construction photos of MIDIboxes). They are great for DIY projects because they come with washer and nut for mounting, the leads are spaced 5mm apart and the mounting tabs are spaced 15mm apart, so they fit nicely into 100mil spacing prototyping boards.As for their feel, if you have used the STEC16B or the ones from Voti, they are essentially the same, perhaps a little smoother, with a slightly more tactile detent but less of a sound, not stiffer or requiring more force to move over the detents. They come detented but are easily made non-detented by opening them and bending the metal part that rubs against the disc attached to the shaft. I've taken shots while I did this on one of the samples.In this shot, I've bent the tabs up. Note how they go through slots in the top part - this makes reassembly much more secureYou can see they are of a different construction to the STEC16B and Voti ones, instead of two brushes (connected to pins A and B) making contact with a disc of radial contacts (connected to pin C), this is reversed... three brushes that are common cause bridging between one or two of the radial contact sections (connected to pins A and B) and a solid contact section (connected to pin C). I really like this design!Here is the detent mechanism. You can bend that copper metal part flat and it no longer makes contact. In theory you could bent it just a little to make a less tactile detent.How Much?Estimate of cost of 100pcs, including M9 washers and nuts, and including shipping:To the U.S.: $67.41 USD ($0.68 each!)To Europe: 49.79 EUR (0.50 EUR each!)The exact price might be a little different to allow for PayPal fees, exchange rates (payment will be in Australian dollars), and customs duty fee (10% of shipment cost). I don't think that people really care about a slight difference when it comes time to pay... they will still be a lot cheaper than Voti's or Mouser's prices for the same part (eg. 1.25 EUR from Voti, or 100@US$1.76 for Mouser part 318-ENC160F-24P, and that doesn't include shipping or customs duty).I am only selling these in lots of exactly 100 per person. Do not ask me for "just 15".It is quite likely that SmashTV will order some more of these and sell them in small quantities in future, and it will be a lot easier for him to sprinkle a few in your next SmashTV order. This bulk order is mainly for the people building a few projects and want to stock up on rotary encoders at a bargain price.Terms of SaleI am selling these encoders, therefore I guarantee they will be as I describe in this post, such as the dimensions, electrical characteristics, MIOS compatibility, ability to remove the detent, etc. If the parts delivered to you do not meet these criteria, you can return them to me for a full refund (including return postage costs). Quote
Wilba Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Posted November 12, 2007 Current orders:Wilba - 250SounDuke - 50stryd_one - 300jimp - 100seppoman - 100Sasha - 100KnowGood - 100amp1ron - 100reboot - 100zid - 100nebula - 100Dirge - 100TheProf - 100illmenator - 100huck - 100B.jamin da Bass - 100robert lowell - 100Remaining - 0 Quote
stryd_one Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 including M3 washers and M3 nutsmmmm, encoderrrrsssYou mean M9 right? ...Someone's got MB6582 on the brain :) Quote
Sasha Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 These are truly of better construction than Voti`s. I like how tabs are going trough slots. :)Thank you Jason for this very good deal and for all the effort you did to rder these for us. Quote
Wilba Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Posted November 12, 2007 You mean M9 right? ...Someone's got MB6582 on the brain :)Yes, I meant M9. And the datasheet says 8.9mm diameter shaft and they Thank you Jason for this very good deal and for all the effort you did to rder these for us.hehehe I did it for me. I need more encoders. And I have Bulk Order Madness Syndrome, which makes me do crazy things like buy 2000 encoders because I need 30 right now and maybe another 100 at most in future. Cheap encoders for you guys is just a side effect of this madness... *whack* Quote
Sasha Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 OK man, just keep your madness going and we are all happy. ;D Quote
nebula Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 That's some outstanding photography, Wilba! They look delicious! Quote
Wilba Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Posted November 12, 2007 That's some outstanding photography, Wilba! They look delicious!Canon EOS-350D + Canon Speedlite 430EX (bounced off the ceiling). Not even a macro lens, just zoomed in. I might invest in a macro lens one of these days... Quote
Sasha Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Amazing! I was sure it is macro lens. :o Quote
robert lowell Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 i'm in if the remaining 100 is still not spoken for. pm sent... Quote
nebula Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Wilba, how does the time frame look on these? Quote
lief138 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Damn Wilba,You are something else, Put me down for a set also please....Lief Quote
lief138 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Damn Wilba,You are something else, Put me down for a set also please....LiefIt sucks to have to quote yourself and say "Gee I should have read more first...." Well I guess put me in for the next batch. The new baby made me slow :(Lief Quote
Wilba Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Posted November 12, 2007 Wilba, how does the time frame look on these?I'm paying today, they said they would ship on the 16th, so can post next week hopefully.This should be an easy distribute, I'm not testing each one like SIDs!Sorry to the people who missed out... I ordered 2000 because it's the minimum order. There's probably enough demand for another order of this size so I might do another 2000, or someone else could run another bulk order of these. Post here if you want to join in a future bulk order. Quote
Sasha Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 Sorry to the people who missed out...Well, it was easy to miss it. 2k pieces just burned! :P Quote
KnowGood Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 Wilba, are you going to send a PayPal money request as you did for the sids? Quote
opkod Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 I have to wait for the next batch.... :-\ Quote
nILS Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 That must have been the fastest bulk order ever. Respect :D Quote
Wilba Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Posted November 13, 2007 I will send PayPal invoices when I get the encoders and recalculate actual price (sometimes I have to pay customs duty, sometimes not). Price estimate could go up or down by 5%. Quote
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