Steven_C

oops... I just modified whilst you replied!

I take it your on PC then? I would save my pennies and go for a commercial MC... now supports PT. They are so cheap now! (P&G faders too) and not just volume controls, but more!! other than that, it would be nice if someone here could send a midifile to you of each of cs10's controls.... then you could do a nice, n easy midi learn on your midibox!

I take it your on PC then? I would save my pennies and go for a commercial MC... now supports PT. They are so cheap now! (P&G faders too) and not just volume controls, but more!! other than that, it would be nice if someone here could send a midifile to you of each of cs10's controls.... then you could do a nice, n easy midi learn on your midibox!

well basically you may be able to use a logic control to control Protools, as there is a translation program downloadable for free from the emagic website, but unfortunately it is only for people who have a logic dongle, and are using a Mac, apart from that, it would take someone to write a special application, I think.

well basically you may be able to use a logic control to control Protools, as there is a translation program downloadable for free from the emagic website, but unfortunately it is only for people who have a logic dongle, and are using a Mac, apart from that, it would take someone to write a special application, I think.

I searched through old posts, and could my problems be similar to these old posts? TK? quote..... "Hello Thorsten, Ok, the Midi Overrun problem is solved . Thank You. I've wired up all the eight faders with cables less than 30cm. But i still have the problem of midi data intermittenly being sent by faders only moved by the motors. That is, if fader1 is assigned B0 00, and the motor is moving fader 1, it will sent out just a single value for example B0 00 02 or some other value at another time during automation playback. This happens also to all other faders only if they are moving. It happens intermittenly. If the automation playback is stopped, the midi output is stable with no jitter or false data being sent. I'm using Panasonic Faders, could this be in conflict with the delay settings you use in the Feedback elimination routines? Peace Frank" and...... "Hi Frank, I changed the timeout algorithm (slightly): up to now, the current fader value is copied into the "target" register during the timeout state after a fader has been moved. This should fix the problem (?) Link to the new firmware: http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_mf/midibox_mf_v0003.hex.zip Best Regards, Thorsten." But I still think my faders have a physical problem at the ends of their travel

ask local suppliers, or the suppliers listed on Thorsten's site. As for the jog wheel.... I'm gonna get my bro to turn a knob up for me on the lathe at his work... maybe you could pull one from an old stereo.... The rest of the jog wheel is just a rotary encoder

there are a few other threads with infos on using controllers with protools

there are a few other threads with infos on using controllers with protools

don't forget mail order, see Ian's posts for indication of how good a deal you can get!!

don't forget mail order, see Ian's posts for indication of how good a deal you can get!!

Thanks Dan :) to be honest, I was a bit uptight when I wrote that, I should be more patient :P hopefully I'm just havin probs that are something to do with my own setup/circuit, and not probs that others will have to deal with.... I think I better take a break for a bit!! And then I'll take another look at the mios application code, see if I've missed some adjustment ::) bye, from Steve

Hello, I am really feeling like throwing my faders in the bin right now. I have spent an entire week (even skipping college to work on this) tweaking these things, and still I have unsatisfactory results. If anyone at all is happy with these faders, then please speak up as otherwise more people will be dissappointed like me, if they keep buying them. My faders refuse to work properly at each end of their travel, they stop at the wrong positions, and sometimes don't even move at all. I can't do a mix using this thing, as I'm afraid it will stuff up my mixes. can someone tell me how good the alps faders are? apparently LO's panasonics work ok, but he is using an old '877 firmware (lower resolution, I think) BTW, I tried offsetting the dc offset as I mentioned on the other thread, but no joy. Once you are happy with your project, it would be nice if you hang around for a while to help others who are having troubles, even if it is only occasional. (Thanks to all those who do help, though) sorry I'm in such a bad mood, bye, from Steve

I'm probably stating the obvious, but remember that you have to send the sysex for the os within two seconds of receiving the dump request, after you turn the 'box on. Failing that, where are you located? if you have a spare pic, maybe you can post it so someone fairly local can load the os for you? good luck, from Steve

did you mean 874? I know that some of the old firmwares will work with th PIC16F874, notably the mb64, but I would suggest only using this for the very simple projects... merger, transport buttons, or maybe mb16 if you can wait a few months, you can try ordering samples from microchip website. I suggest you start with the PIC18F452 if you can, but check the firmware supports this first

and fx requires massive dsp, and knowledge of how fx systems work.... even commercial systems can sound like rubbish.... you might find something on www.diyaudio.com though almost only mios studio.... yeah!!

Hey LO, did you try fixing the order of the pots/motors?? I guess you want to have a break from tweaking stuff for a while anyway!!

Hey LO, did you try fixing the order of the pots/motors?? I guess you want to have a break from tweaking stuff for a while anyway!!

Yes, one power supply will be OK. Using a regulator on each board will be OK too. (makes construction simpler) 1 amp should be enough, or 1.5amp just to make sure. my many mistakes have proven the components in these circuits to be very tough!! not sure about nuendo... it would be great if it supports the housten controller..?? note that if you are a begginer, it may take several weeks, or more, you will need a lot of patience, its not a quick project to save some money, but it is fun customising something for your own needs!! good luck, from Steve

I'll have to check out this plugin!! (if I have it on my Logic version... Logic Audio/Silver)

So your real name is Matt I see! well... I haven't used SX yet, but one of my old classmates reckons it kicks protools... about the panasonics.. under the LC....after countless hours of constant tweaking I have found that the following settings have worked the best so far... motor voltage 7.1v (yes, 2.1v above manufacturers specs... I hope I don't kill them prematurely... What voltage are others using??) mf deadband...3 ain deadband...7 faderbodies insulated from front panel (wierd...but works better) I tried earthing the front panel to the case of my pc...but this created more problems, now there is no common earth at all! (maybe the wire was too long) ground strap from pcb to front panel, as short as possible fader speed in main.asm.... default (I think it is already set to the fastest??) tried running off batteries, may have worked slightly better, but not worth it, as the voltage changes over time, would give inconsistent results. OK, the thing is behaving much better, only occasionally does a fader get left behind, or move slightly to the wrong spot when changing banks... almost always going down, suggesting a possible small dc offset problem?? but I'm kinda using terms that I don't know the meaning of here!! I think the reason that my motors keep going, even when they are at the bottom of their travel is because of a dc offset problem also... as when I move the fader down to the bottom by hand, they only go down to -100dB or so... very rarely will they go to -00dB, or is this a problem of my setting of 7 deadband... creating a 7 bit resolution for software that is expecting 10bit?? I still have a gut feeling that a dc offset adjustment may help me.... does anybody with electronic skills know how to do this?? (if no one replies, I'll just ask one of my electrical engineer friends!!..... they are handy to have!!) many, many thanks go to all who have helped on this great project, over the last couple of years.... Thorsten, Greg, Dimitris, and the other guys who started experiments with motorfaders/encoders, Axel (for inspiration!!) Ian, LO, Basta 73, pay_c and many many more people that I can't think of their names right now!! Thanks Mum, for putting up with the sound of my PC fan all day!! Thanks to all the PCB people too. Thanks to my sponsors, and my pit crew, and all the fans!! Thanks to dunlop for the tyres! Thanks to everyone who makes this site/forum the best thing on the internet!! have fun everyone ;) bye from Steve (I'll probably reply to myself again shortly) Thanks to emagic for Logic! (please bring back the PC version!! :P)

Rowan, I'm sure you could get MIOS running... it just takes a few more steps and more patience, but once you have figured out the process... upload bootstrap, os, and application, it saves so much time, being able to tweak settings, and then upload the changes in a matter of seconds, instead of powering down pc, plugging in chip (unless you program in circuit... a luxury I don't have with my programmer!!) etc... but one step at a time!! It really is a good feeling to know you have burnt a file into a tiny wafer of silicon isn't it!! good luck, from Steve

The version I have is in english, I didn't know that there was a non English version??

So what problems with the 18F have you had, LO? I'd be happy to help if I can!! BTW, what platform/software are you using?? I'm about to have another look at that buzzing problem again, maybe its something I don't expect..... So LO is into hiphop.... so what are you into Ian??

Hey Thorsten, I finally got to listen to one of your songs!! (I've been so busy building/troubleshooting my LC, I haven't had time to fix up the tangle of patchleads in my room to listen to anything but the radio!!) I listened to Lovesong for my sids, and I was amazed by some of the sounds!! and so were people in my music production class (I listened on Dynaudio monitor speakers, in a mixing studio) Wow the bass!! that was so low!! very cool! 8) what speakers did you do the mix on?? keep tweaking those filters ;D bye, from Steve