Don't you think that's a bit rude? They're not exactly the same anyway, so hold out... They're for MEC 3F/4F switches, so they're not as universal as these (although a couple of guys figured out ways they could be used with normal tacts), and they cost a bit more., etc. MTE/TK/admins, can you split this off into another thread, this is probably not the place to discuss it :)