stryd_one

Very Nice ;D

Different creatures. The MBSEQ could be considered in comparison with a doepfer maq 16/3, on steroids. That said, the midibox sequencer is by far the best at what it does, at least IMO. The vX has a fair bit in common with the P3 (all that algorithmic stuff) but it's still vapourware (but I'm fighting it!) Edit: I should add that, ignoring the algo stuff like aux events and accumulators, the MBSeq would be the clear leader IMO - And if you have some programming skills, that opens another can of worms ;)

Does this mean the R4C board will not work with IIC modules unless R12 is added?

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Yeh please do tell! :)

Heya Jason, welcome aboard. Sounds like a nice setup you got there, especially that motu :) The instant question that jumps into my head is how are you getting audio into sonar? or is it all softsynths? Anyway on the topic of the midibox, it sounds like what you are after is midi controlled audio faders. The existing midibox projects are midi controllers which would provide a tactile control surface to sonar, so not quite the same thing - they don't control audio levels themselves, but control the device which does (your PC)... A Midibox could easily accept a midi signal transmitted from sonar and use it to control other circuitry, which modulates analog audio amplitude. That could be a VCR, VCA, DCR, DCA, or either CV or digitally controlled full-blown preamp. Each of these solutions will differ in it's implementation, so it's best to specify the analog circuitry first, and then decide how to best control it with a midibox. You might find some talk of similar projects recently about the THAT 2180 IC which might be of interest, and the MBFX concept could be promising too. Hope that helps :)

It does sound like it might be an application bug... TK I would be happy to try and figure this out if you like, but I should ask if you would suggest any particular areas that I should look into? Or maybe I should leave it to the master ;)

Bingo.

I would offer my assistance but I'm sure that it would pale in comparison to TK's advice :) Still, if you need anything, ask away :)

Thanks Mike!!

Drool.

Is that a software scope? I was always curious about those... They're so much cheaper, there's gotta be a catch right? That's pretty cool though, I like those scope screencaps :)

So no jitter with 2.4 now? :)

Heya, Nice one Sasa. Infinium seem to be really cool about this too, props to them hey! Clearly they stand by their mission statement of making a revolution in controllers :) I guess that price list explains why you saw a $3 price - that's for lots of 1000 or more, unassembled! doh! 100 of them might be possible, who knows... Interesting to see the data on the unassembled units though. Very interesting. With those schematics, it's easy to see how the optics and electronics of the faders work. Obviously the yet-to-come models increase the density of the sensors and add more rows (more IR) I also notice that the "serial" interface referred to on the website is in fact I2C, which is great news for us. Do the unassembled kits come with the full set of IC's as well? and optics? Or just the mechanics? We could easily deal with construction and our own PCB's if we could just make it a bit more DIY friendly and use DIP IC's. It's a shame our friend the PIC16F88 only has 7 ADC's or we could use that to drive the IR LEDs and do DAC work, but an 18F452 would do it, and is fast enough and has enough IO pins to drive a few of the faders from a single chip. I would be surprised if they would release enough info to program your own IC, but it might be worth asking... Otherwise the IC they use is available in PLCC28, we could use a socket for that, but that could bump the price up a fair bit. And then there's the price of buying a programmer for the IC's, having PCB's made, and a lot of time to invest... I reckon you're better off buying them pre-assembled for DIY stuff, unless maybe it could be done in lots of at least 100, preferably much more. And all that is assuming the optics are included. There's no doubting that they're a really cool product but I don't know if the benefits outweigh the cost, at least in the DIY sense :(

Ahh thanks for that advice TK. I mentioned the CPU because of your comments about the MBSEQ in another thread, but obviously these are different devices :)

Yeh a pretty penny is for sure. I'm a few thousand dollars in (3200 aussie dollars to be precise) and still have a couple grand more to spend. Most people don't spend that much, but I won't cut corners. I think at the end of the day, so long as you've covered off safety, then you'll be fine, but professionals will tell you that using the wrong tool for the job is not safe, which means you need to get all the tools you could possibly need, in order to ensure your safety. Don't forget all the little things... They really add up! I reckon the seller was just about as shocked as me, when I placed my order just for ribbon cable and IDC connectors, which came to over $70 :o Not that everyone is going to get a shock quite like that, but it does demonstrate well that a small oversight in planning can set you back a fair bit of cash. You need to consider things like.... the LCDs - 2 LCD's could be $5 or it could be $100. Buttons - 100 buttons could be $50 or $800. Knobs - 100 knobs could be similar, 50-800 dollars. Faceplates - Cardboard with felt-tip marker = $2, but professionally made laser cut powder coated and silkscreened could be $500 for a box of that magnitude.... Then stuff you haven't even mentioned, like mounting screws and nuts and spacers (wow, expensive!!), and consumables like drill bits and solder (to name an obvious one), antiseptic creams for soldering iron burns (to name a really obscure one)... These little things just keep adding up and up and up. IMO, you're best off specifiying what you need, and then figuring out the cost, than trying to make your requirements fit a certain price. That kind of thinking just ends up with inferior equipment, because you end up cutting back on desired features, to meet your price point. My way, happens a bt slower (unless you have a massive budget), but at the end, you get "perfection". I guess it's really about what you want in the long run....

I know what you mean, I thought the same... It seems that this thread/project is more about cloning the specific device, than creating a new but similar device. Some modifications to the traditional TR have been suggested, but larger scale changes such as those you and I are suggesting, appear not to be the intention of this project. Another thing which hasn't been mentioned as yet, is the requirement for CPU power. If the seq is busy scanning all those buttons, it might not have time for more important things like sending MIDI. This is a good demonstration why even if you were willing to write the code for the UI, it's capability and impact would need to be factored into the seq design from stage 1, and it's too late for that now. Well it originally stood for 'Version X' while I was toying with the concept, but that was shortened to vX because I'm bone lazy ;) I'm aware of the nerve agent VX and actually thought that the name was well suited to the intention of the device - it's especially geared toward altering and mutating and growing songs - very viral in nature... and it's also designed to systematically destroy the existing, extremely Westernised concept of rhythm - it's a weapon against a few things I dislike about music in general. Not to mention that MSWord kept attempting to correct my spelling to "Vex", which reflects the way I feel about the 4/4 time signature fascination/addiction/obsession that people have developed/never thought to question ;) Other animals don't restrict themselves to 4/4, why do we? 'Cause people are stupid, that's why! ::) Anyway I'm going further and further off topic every second I type. :-X back to the TR UI :D

Have you already got an electronics lab set up? Even if you do, that's a pretty optimistic price.... If you don't....Forget it :( If you're aiming to get something for cheap, DIY is a baaaad idea.

Hi Modularkomplex. This thread is dedicated to emulating, and perhaps slightly improving upon, the TR style sequencers... What you're asking for is a different kind of concept to that, but if you'd like to help me with the vX, which is more like what you are asking for, just let me know :)

Try this one (it's zip file format this time) Or http://www.pic101.com/mcgahee/ What a nice guy! hd44780.zip.txt hd44780.zip.txt

Sax Solo

Here we go... Standard HD44780 font emulations for PC, Mac and *nix. Save the file as .tar and unzip the file you need from inside it. I've got some other CLCD-style fonts here (not necessarily HD44780 style) if you want some special characters like arrows and such?

Yeh, unfortunately, it's a MIDI file (MIDI SysEx to be precise) and no matter what you name it, the hex won't appear as text ;) I can't find syx2hex anywhere either, have you tried syx2asm?

ebay is about as good as you'll get, price-wise.

Now that makes sense.... Pretty big difference ;) Sounds like a solid plan mate, good luck!