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Some info about international shipping would be nice. I tried to navigate trough their website to find few email addresses but nobody ever answered me. If they ship internationally and if there is a way to order it somehow I might need more help in translation. Thank you. @nebula I would also like to know what is happening with bulk order for Re`an knobs. Will it happened?

He obviously have bigger jobs to do which will earn him much more money than one test panel. What should he say... you are low prioritized, or, I don`t have a time right now for your 15EUR worth job. :-\ If one know how to run the business he will treat the customers right and make small customer feel the problem is of other nature, not he is less important. Agree?

I hope so. I will make new thread for discussion about x0x panel once I received the 2nd test panels. Hopefully tomorrow. At least guy promised that for 3rd time. But he is lier... you know what he served me... he said one machine broke so they are waiting for the nozzle to arrive. He forgot there are people that knows difference between laser and waterjet cutters. ::)

Thank you cimo. In case you don`t know about, here is the great vector database... everybody can download or upload logos! Such a great website! I love it! This is my music project logo: http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/43661073/120827.html

Cool. I heard of that, but never used it. How durable it is? I don`t mean compared with textile paints... more like, will it stand to wash 10 times?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I`ll donate

It is, otherwise I would already ask you to split or move some portions. Thanks anyway.

Did you used screen printing technique or stencil? I used to cut stencil out of PVC and hand painted it, and I also used to make things like this out of muflon... velvet-like material that can be cut with scalpel and applied as a sticker. After that you fixate it with the iron. Quick technique but not resistive as paint. ;) I might take some pics when I back home.

Thanks Lebowski! ;)

I like that logo. A must have for MIDI geeks! Who screened it? I was working in screen rinting company, and I never seen we did anything cool that I would really like to wear. Nills, are you willing to share the vectors, or must I steal it and redraw it from scratch myself? ;D

You think I know how? :) Feel free to give some suggestion for organization.

I was interested myself who are people behind those strange nicknames. Not really what they do for living, mostly what they do in their life. Some I managed to know over a past time. I met 4 local boxers in real and they are all pretty cool. Often we organize and get some parts together, or give a tip where to get something or such. I`m doing system administration and tech support (mobile ordering over GPRS using pocket PCs). Administration part is OK, but tech support and dealing to people is not fun at all. Sellers hardly use the computers so it could be tough. Beside work, I mostly doing something related to electronics, woods and all kinds of handcrafting. Used to make music, but since I came to this forum and managed to get my first MB going, I just have no free time for it as I`m always running few projects that takes all my free time. I feel bad, because we are all here because we enjoy making or playing music and secondly making things. It is kinda absurd. I am waiting to make myself few pieces of gear that will allowed me to make music away from PC. There are alot of work to be done but I`m afraid when I finish it there will always be some cool project I cannot resist, and same time I`m afraid I`ll never get back to music. :( This is not really complaining, I enjoy and having fun what I am doing but I think playing with gear makes even more fun. Some time I reserve for my beloved girlfriend. She deserves more time but... it is TK` s fault. ::) Day is too short for all I`d like to do. If it last at least 30 hours it would be great. :) Not directly job related answer, but job is not everything. Especially when you earn just enough to pay the bills.

I`m getting lost between this and other xoxbox parts thread. I already said on other thread the Grayhill answered me 25LB22-H will be awailabe in 4-5 weeks so no probably no need for alternatives.

I get response from Grayhill...

I found this as a part of "switch.h" But, I don`t quite get it. :-[ #define TEMPO_PIN PINA 34 #define TEMPO_A 1 35 #define TEMPO_B 0 36 //#define TEMPO_SW 0 37 #define SWITCH_LATCH_PORT PORTB 38 #define SWITCH_LATCH_PIN 0 39 40 #define BANK_PIN PINA 41 #define FUNC_PIN PINA 42 #define BANK_COMMON_PORT PORTA 43 #define FUNC_COMMON_PORT PORTA 44 #define BANK_COMMON_PIN 6 45 #define FUNC_COMMON_PIN 6 46 #define BANK_PIN1 5 47 #define BANK_PIN2 4 48 #define BANK_PIN4 3 49 #define BANK_PIN8 2 50 51 uint8_t read_tempo(void); 52 void read_switches(void); 53 void select_bank_read(void); 54 uint8_t read_bank(void); 55 uint8_t has_bank_knob_changed(void); 56 void read_keypad(uint8_t *switchinput); 57 void select_func_read(void); 58 uint8_t read_function(void); 59 void read_switch_press(void); 60 uint8_t is_pressed(uint8_t key); 61 uint8_t just_pressed(uint8_t key); 62 uint8_t just_released(uint8_t key); 63 uint8_t get_lowest_numkey_pressed(void); 64 int8_t get_lowest_notekey_pressed(void); 65 uint8_t get_lowest_numkey_just_pressed(void); 66 uint8_t no_keys_pressed(void); 67 68 #define KEY_TEMPO 2 69 70 #define KEY_NEXT 8 71 #define KEY_RS 1 72 #define KEY_CHAIN 0 73 #define KEY_PREV 3 74 #define KEY_C 4 75 #define KEY_CS 9 76 #define KEY_D 5 77 #define KEY_DS 10 78 #define KEY_E 6 79 #define KEY_F 7 80 #define KEY_FS 11 81 #define KEY_G 17 82 #define KEY_GS 12 83 #define KEY_A 18 84 #define KEY_AS 13 85 #define KEY_B 16 86 #define KEY_C2 19 87 #define KEY_UP 15 88 #define KEY_DOWN 14 89 #define KEY_REST 20 90 #define KEY_ACCENT 21 91 #define KEY_SLIDE 22 92 #define KEY_DONE 23 93 94 #define KEY_1 KEY_C 95 #define KEY_2 KEY_D 96 #define KEY_3 KEY_E 97 #define KEY_4 KEY_F 98 #define KEY_5 KEY_G 99 #define KEY_6 KEY_A 100 #define KEY_7 KEY_B 101 #define KEY_8 KEY_C2 102 103 #define PLAY_PATTERN_FUNC 15 104 #define PLAY_PATTERN_MIDISYNC_FUNC 11 105 #define PLAY_PATTERN_DINSYNC_FUNC 7 106 #define EDIT_PATTERN_FUNC 3 107 108 #define PLAY_TRACK_FUNC 13 109 #define PLAY_TRACK_DINSYNC_FUNC 5 110 #define PLAY_TRACK_MIDISYNC_FUNC 9 111 #define EDIT_TRACK_FUNC 1 112 113 #define COMPUTER_CONTROL_FUNC 14 114 115 #define MIDI_CONTROL_FUNC 0 116 117 #define RANDOM_MODE_FUNC 8 118 119 #define KEYBOARD_MODE_FUNC 4 120 121 #define A_FUNC 12 122 #define B_FUNC 2 123 #define C_FUNC 10 124 125 #define BOOTLOAD_FUNC 6

Ask what? There is not much DIY part hunters there. 25LB22-H is not rare part! I believe Limor, as living in US was searching the Mouser and Digikey for right part she think would suits the design. 25LB22-H seamed suitable, it wasn`t rare part, it is produced in US, not very expensive, so at time it was right choice.

As I understand absolute variant of those encoders you found (702) - gray code is same as the we need. If still there are some differences in code table it should be really easy to adapt. There are 16 positions/combinations. EDIT: Here is the code diferences comparison. I`m going to search the src code for x0x and check. I hope it is well documented as TK do it so people without programming knowledge as myself can understand it. Here is the page with the source code. I`m looking around to figure out where it could be. http://x0xb0x.cvs.sourceforge.net/x0xb0x/firmware/

I`ve sent an email to Grayhill asking about those encoders. Hope wan`t hear that.

That is bad. I also check the Grayhill at Newmark... same story. Seams nobody stocks it at the moment. I would personally rather use panel mount pots than wait till June to get those Panasonics. 50K pots are easy to find. But seams no replacement for the Grayhill. :-\ This project already took too long. I have problems with cutting company to cut the test panel. They told me few times they will do it but they were obviously joking.

This thread started as an offer for x0xb0x PCBs. I never changed the Thread name after it status changed, so it might be confusing for the people not involved in it from beginning. People who are in should check the new posts to be up to date. I`ll update first page, and change the thread name so it should be more clear to the people not in it from beginning. First page updated.

That is pretty ambitious. Getting rare parts seams easier than getting those Mouser and Digikey parts.

You don`t need both 2SK30A(0) and 2SK30A(Y)! Just one of those.

I don`t believe you need special tool for designing midiboxes. They are usually square shaped, flat, and they are constructed out of flat 2D sheets of metal, acrylic... So as designing the box, in most cases, takes 2D graphics any vector program like Corel Draw, Illustrator, Freehand... will do. Using vector based software is is important as every machine can use those files for manufacturing. My friend designed his box in Photoshop, and he brought the files to me like "ready" so I can send it to the cutters. I have to redraw whole design in Corel to be really useful. If you wanna do some complex constructions and assembly, and if it will not be only for only one or two boxes, than you you better get yourself some CAD software and your life will be easier.

I never said acrylic is not strong enough for mobile use. It`s surface just isn`t hard enough. Apple designers didn`t missed anything. They did their job well. But, Macs and Ipods and all that fashionable Ixxx things are among alot of people popular more because its fancy apearance than performance. I know more than few persons that bought Mac because they look soooo cool! :-\ The package selling the product, that is nothing new. I would say Apple`s products are of better internal quality than external. But their external is pretty. I find C64 case is much more quality than Mac`s but much less attractive. You can`t have it all. Apple knows well what they are doing. It is matters of balance. And, if I think as a businessman I would also suggest to make shiny, glowing x0x with only blue LEDs, so if we decide to sell it we earn alot of money. ::) But, I suggest metal... in our case it will probably be 1mm steel.

I really love using acrylic but it is not scratch proof. As hard as you try to handle ot with great care, even fine cloth of the transport bag or such will scratch the surface. Acrylic isn`t a way to go if you want to have something look as new after alot of use/abuse.