Psykhaze

Sure,couldn't say better. I am currently working with you to make this current situation evolve. I don't wish everybody becomes an expert, just said we could open to infos where there is some . For those who were used to read , Isaac Asimov told in "Foundation" about all damages that breeding ignorance could bring. And i do agree with him. Aren't we working together to bring everybody new nice hardware features? I REALLY do agree with the pre made kit concept. That's how i turned myself into midibox before designing. Why should i judge others to ask for it ? I try to give my best for these upcoming things. Just it hurt me when i feel like people seems preferring avoiding search work than digging into the things while knowledge offered. It's maybe just a feeling... Whatever .

The first point was about getting Tago interested in the doc . I understand you put much of yourself in these PCB you order first with personnal funds then test it then only provide things. I have the greatest respect for that. Without PCB designers like you or Tim, MIDIbox wouldn't be what it is to me. Just trying to think about how giving support to everybody, as well as PCB designer as well as end users. @latigid on I wouldn't call this irony. I am just disappointed that peoples follow only the "less effort" way . This modulbox project we have is quite big as you said and probably some months before real results. If we manage to lead it to the end,i would be very happy to spend my own money in some PCB stocks that community could be supplied and design new projects based upon these new expanders. We are working on it , and you have also told me about the value of patience. I was trying to point this out. We all know about current limited availaibilty of boards. Was trying to remember that if you can't spend some time in the wiki or the forum to learn, you maybe no have time for a midibox? so maybe that sounded ironic Please @tago if any questions i could help for ask in private message, i'm all open to discussing and explain all what i could. Best regards to all, Jerome

Need some technical advice about a question: May encoders be managed in a switch matrix design? see http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=switch#connection it may allow to manage large encoders numbers by having less DIN/DOUTs inputs outputs Bests, JK

In the end will be integrated in http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=mb-modulbox-ng project, module 21. Bests, JK

I am also disappointed about the fact many peoples ask for PCBs but don't even looks deeper on UCapps nor wiki ... Breadbording the STM32F4 board / some digital shift registers can be a solution to experiment if anybody feel in a real hurry. And really doable if you spend few hours on it =) I also wonder about peoples intentions about buying all-ready stuff when i see prices on ebay. Just have have a "midibox" search to see... TK's licence allow DIYers to build up to 10 machines a year to provide on the (flea)market. That's even quite much and allow to spread midibox things and allow active understanding midiboxers to help getting time and money returns on what already spent in midibox. To me ,this flow of external asks for "all-built" midiboxes has to be managed in some way. Don't know really how ,frankly speaking, maybe creating some "Hire a DIYer" system that it could benefits to active midibox members? But seems like even info is almost here for helping in wiki for building everything (i spent much time in filling), people just want to stay ignorant and only solder then play music without getting in other steps. Ok it's really easier to solder pre-made kits , but you really don't need to be an electronics engineer to breadboard/stripboard the UCApps schematics. I will also add Internal Wiki tutorials about this when time, other external ressources are already linked. Just take time to check out the updated wiki knowledge base, please =) Best regards, JK

Also , about PCB stocks, it could be a great idea if few other midiboxers could invest on some little bulks. I mean we could organize things to bulk order from Tim to make like a "Community-shared" Stock , in a crowdfunded way or whatelse? We could set up a system of "PCB maintainer" i mean one midiboxer maintaining alternative stock for one or more specific PCB . That would allow alternatives sources without Hijacking Tim (not much?). if we buy bulk PCB for what already done,he should be happy to have less splitted parcels to send to maintainers. A crazy idea maybe. @smashtv, @TK. your advices would be warmly welcome Bests, JK

Happily Phatline is here for you @tago :) Just don't forget that in midibox, patience and perseverance are the keys ;) moreover during summer ahah Bests, JK

So don't be in a hurry if you don't want to design by yourself. Many peoples also await for this and SmashTV is surely restocking. It's summer,don't forget peoples may take some holidays . Please be patient. if you don't want to be patient , then get into the PCB thing, many infos here : http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=basics Bests, JK

Then you can use veroboards as suggested More seriously, some old DIN / DOUT modules still do the trick.... About Core32 you can also make a new PCB and share it ^^ Or just have a look to Core32 schematics and veroboard the thing while PCB get available again .... Bests, JK

By the way @tago, if you looked in the wiki , modules and parts section you would have found this : http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=where_to_order_pre-made_printed_circuit_boards_pcbs_and_parts_kits So you can order From Tim/SmashTV if in America http://midiboxshop.bigcartel.com/ and as well it is the main community supplier. If in Europe, http://www.mikes-elektronikseite.de/ also provides PCBs and kits. Bests , JK

Always DIY in the spirit . I love that !

Seems that delays are becoming longer and longer ... Some alternatives needed.

wow cool !

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great work , think about documenting it in wiki or asking me to do. best regards, JK

By the way, some design thoughts about how to manage Analog Ins/Outs with new core32 would be some great add =)

Hi ! For those who use IRC and are used to hang on freenode, i created #midibox channel there. i know some IRC midibox chat exists on mibbits,but to me not the best place to be. And having different IRC servers is not very cool , i prefer by my side being stucked to freenode as well as it's the right place for open source things. some good free Windows IRC client there : https://www.adiirc.com/ Hope some peoples would join ! Best regards, JK

That's a goal of the project to be compatible with old school analog synths. So totally yes. http://ucapps.de/mbhp_ainser8.html < This module allow to have cool analog in from pots. Encoders use http://ucapps.de/mbhp_din.html . You should keep an AINSER8 as near as possible of Pots.then link AINSER8 to core32. The line driver module allow to have distance links without loosing signal strenght, that's why i talked about it. but not the right thing to use here. Best regards, JK

and about noise issue: http://ucapps.de/mbhp_line_driver.html Bests, JK

yes , great stuff !

Upcoming project : http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=mb-modulbox-ng Might interest you. bests, JK

Hello everybody, Still working on the wiki things, i've really updated the user projects list here : http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=user_projects Tried to dig as far as possible to make an exhaustive list. Feel free to discover new or hidden projects =) If your user project is not listed here and you want it to be , Please send me a PM with basic concepts, photos or picture, and some basics infos or links i could set a page if you don't have some wiki account. Also added much getting started informations (download links / Screenshots / Video Tutorials) For Open Source software that could really help in your midibox adventures. http://wiki.midibox.org/doku.php?id=basics#useful_stuff_for_midiboxing bests regards to all, JK

@TK. You maybe have some advice on the question ? (sorry for undigging the thread) Bests, JK

http://www.hvsc.de/players.htm#players http://sidplayer.cebix.net/ http://www.gsldata.se/c64/spw/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/jsidplay2/

I'm in for 10 pcs :)