Sasha Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 This is actually my very old idea, but I never knew how to realise it since I`m not some electronic genious.. :P This is another great midi project based on PIC, and I wonder is there some ideas how to interface electromehanics with midibox. I know there`s a way to put relays (probably too slow for this purpose) on a digital out modules, but can you somehow send midi signals from sequencer to transistors which drives the motors, electromagnets... I get inspired about interfacing drum over midi when I first time saw automated piano with rorating drum with mechanical trigers on it. Imagine to put little beaters on a diferent kind of junk... cans, boxes, real drums on a stage and sequence it in a backstage. If you make fast beaters that react quickly it could be more then usefull.LINK: http://logosfoundation.org/instrum_gwr/troms.htmlAND FREAKS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeh Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 great idea. :) relais... ? maybe transistors ?-chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheater Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 your biggest problem would be the mechanical side of things.making a beater that1. can attain enough momentum to make a loud sound2. can make a fluid move (for example, with drums you'd need it to jump away so it doesn't damp the drum)3. has a correct, reliable range (so for example the stick doesn't go THROUGH the surface of the drum :P )and4. does it all responsively (notice that when you want to hit a drum in time, you have to start moving your arm LONG BEFORE you actually hit it *)can be really a hard task.*you might need to think of some kind of "compensation" for the lag made by the beaters.however, i do think it would be a great thing - you have a great idea.i can only imagine myself sequencing thirty hammers beating on trashcans :D! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming_Rabbit Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 2. can make a fluid move (for example, with drums you'd need it to jump away so it doesn't damp the drum)... no problem... think of a piano hammer.Greets, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 LINK: http://logosfoundation.org/instrum_gwr/troms.htmlAND FREAKS:why are they all naked ??? ??? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Yikes. I'm all for MIDIfication, but I could've gone all day without seeing this, frankly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Martins Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Robot percussionist via PIC? Good alternative when my lazy percussionist "forget" to play with me in my shows.I would love to see someone make this project via MB. KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futureman Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 ... no problem... think of a piano hammer.No problem? Have you actually looked at how complex a piano striker / action / mechanism is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I know there`s a way to put relays (probably too slow for this purpose) on a digital out modules, but can you somehow send midi signals from sequencer to transistors which drives the motors, electromagnets... I think Darlington transistor arrays are faster than relays, and the DOUT module even supports these ICs directly, the output pins become high current sinks instead, so the negative pins of all your mechanical stuff is connected to the DOUT pins and the positive pins connected to whatever supply you want.Didn't you already do stuff like this with old hard disks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Artesia Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 theres something faintly disturbing about the fact that the nudists association managed to claw their way in on such a topic..conversely, if like one chap i knew.. you take up photography & drawing classes in the right places ..youll have quite a legitimate excuse to study a varied range of fine & inspiring curves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylehaze Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The time delay from setting an output to actually beating the drum is easy to fix, especially using a sequencer in a PC.. just time shift the percussion tracks forward.Of course then it's no longer interactive, but only useful for pre-recorded sequences.In the interest of being polite, I'm not going to make any comments about Sashas friends (or family)LyleHaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 [img height=345]http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/404456/80456372.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 There, I fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylehaze Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 But.. that looks like a steam driven machine..Now there's nothing there to make it "Hot"..:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reboot Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 nILS where is Lucy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 In the sky with diamonds, sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nILS Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Pussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nILS Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hehe :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 [img height=69]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2332/302532233611cba785d3.jpg[img height=69]http://www.greendogpetsupply.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/do-not-want-dog.jpgAre you crazy? Desoldering braid/wick is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madox Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hi,A bit off topic, but I'm pretty sure a single power BJT will respond quite a bit faster than a Darlington pair. Darlingtons have high gain, but are not the fastest. Probably either would be quite fast enough though.Perhaps one could use a solenoid to hit a hammer, which in turn hits a percussive target. The hammer would be hinged, with a spring return, and bump stop. I'm not certain how much dynamic range one can get from a solenoid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madox Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Something like the pic attached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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