Kartoshka Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 UPDATE: hooray, nILS (ONCE AGAIN ;)) updated the layout! Thanks nILS.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------* no more piggy-backing, the board is now fully stuffed with everything that's on the small gm5 board (which you don't need for this apparently)* added 74HC14 inverters to add LED support for each MIDI In and Out* board size is roughly 23cm*5cm (8.8"x2.0" for the metric impaired)----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hi everyone.Here we try to gather interest in GM5 5x5 (5ins-5outs) expansion pcbs, in order to make it full scale product.http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/gm5_expansion_5x5_boardFor those who don't know what i'm talking about, GM5 is a usb-to-midi solution. The board manufacturer, Ploytec GmbH, made PCB layout with 1 midi_in and 1 midi_out only, while supporting up to 5in-5outs by utilizing dedicated headers.We try to simplify your soldering experience and avoid prototyping the remaining 4in-4out board.Nils already created the dedicated pcb for diy etching. Now we're headed for (to be) manufactured model.The aim is to manufacture this or similar with professional pcb manufacturer, all fancy silkscreening, laquer, etc etc. The reason for not being posted in group buy section: it all depends on your interest; and before we shoot, we want to smell the ground.Post your considerations, ideas, and put your credentials on the wiki if you'd like to have some of these too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylehaze Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I am interested.After seeing the 5X5 board, I regret missing out on the order for the USB interface boards and chips.It will be at least a few months before I can find any money for toys.For design details, activity LED's for each jack would be good.I noticed there are just two bypass caps for all four optos, and they aren't particularly close to any of them.I suppose I could add a flying cap at each chip myself.Looks great. I already have a 8X8 USB interface, but at the right price, these could be useful! Now that Edirol has stopped making the UM-880 and UM-550, there is a need for something like this.LyleHaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLP Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I am interested.me tooFor design details, activity LED's for each jack would be good.yep. that's a good idea.a last question:how do you design the frontpanel? I know that there are pcb-mount midi-jacks with an extra screw for the Frontpanel existing.I just don't trust that much in PCB-mount stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 the frontpanel?heh... good question, as NOT ALL OF US are going to use 19" 1U former router racks.... or am i wrong?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLP Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 heh... good question, as NOT ALL OF US are going to use 19" 1U former router racks.... or am i wrong?!well, I'm not even using any 19" housing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimh54 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I be in for a couple of boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp1ron Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I'd be interested in a few of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enth Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I'd be in for four or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 If the number of boards likely to be sold goes >100 I'll do it :-) Keep the ideas coming as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugfight Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 how about 1 pcb with the whole circuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 ok, convinced! i guess strydie might move this to groupbuys then.http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/gm5_expansion_5x5_board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 how about 1 pcb with the whole circuit?Well, a lot of people got their "base" PCBs and are now looking for addon boards. This is what this potential bulk order is for. It's a good idea for a future one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sineSurfer Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 1/4 closer to the goal...nils: add the i/o activity leds per channel :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 nils: add the i/o activity leds per channel :DWorking on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugfight Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Well, a lot of people got their "base" PCBs ...more than 1/2 of which is being replaced by this already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimo Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 eh yawn i take 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Ive added me name to the list,just adding this post so ill be notified of updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 As pointed out by bugfight already piggy-backing the two boards is a nice idea but comes with several disadvantages (added real-estate, higher board price) and doesn't really have any advantages as the parts count is nearly identical. That's why I have decided against a piggy-back version. Updates:* no more piggy-backing, the board is now fully stuffed with everything that's on the small gm5 board (which you don't need for this apparently)* added 74HC14 inverters to add LED support for each MIDI In and Out* updated screenshot is in the first post.* board size is roughly 23cm*5cm (8.8"x2.0" for the metric impaired) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstamand Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 In x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echopraxia Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Does this work with Vista 64 :P not much does :'( I need to get a dual boot with XP 32.Seriously though I am in for a couple at least if they arent too much. I am just thinking by the time you buy all the parts and cheap case you may be better off just buying used consumer models. I do need something to go with my Ultracore. Maybe I could wire the midi leads on the ultra core directly to this board and have MBSEQ with usb out the back. SEXYThanks NILS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asafnetzer Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Great work nILS, so... no need for the GM5 pcb any more ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 asafnetzer: Not for this 5x5 version no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asafnetzer Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 asafnetzer: Not for this 5x5 version no. Good thing I run out of solder and didn't solder those boards yet. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokiPsiho Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Does this work with Vista 64 :P not much does :'( I need to get a dual boot with XP 32.I have Vista x64 and I can confirm it works. This is great because I have M-Audio Midisport and they didn't release x64 drivers despite their promise. Instead they released identical product and named it Midisport Anniversary Edition ??? which is class compliant like GM5. They suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugfight Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 ... That's why I have decided against a piggy-back version. woohoo!2 for me...* board size is roughly 23cm*5cm (8.8"x2.0" for the metric impaired)isn't the cenTIMeter one for the metric impaired?? *whack* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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