rutgerv Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Hi midiboxers,I've been building an MBSID V2 some time ago, but after I finished it I spent all my time on playing and developing an editor for it. Now I finally have the time to share pictures of the construction process, the end result and a sound demo with you!The specs:* MBSID V2 with 4 cores* 8x SID (types 8580 and 6582)* 8x Moog ladder filter (1 per SID)* AOUT_LC modules to control Cutoff and Resonance of the Moog filters* Stereo mixer and headphone amplifier* 2x analog input (to first 2 Moog filters for processing external signals)The first 4 pictures show:1. The plain double sided PCB (own design, manufactures at www.goldphoenixpcb.biz)2. Halfway populating the PCB (power supply already finished)3. Transformers for the power supply mounted in a 19" enclosure4. Display module with home made transparent (LED-lighted) pushbuttons Best,Rutger Quote
rutgerv Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Posted January 18, 2009 And some more pictures:5. The inside of my MBSID V2 (the upper part shows 8 SID's on a row, the bottom part the 8 Moog filters on a row. On the right hand side the transformers and the power supply can be seen.)6. The final version in my rack with the frontpanel in place!7. The final version in my (new) rack with the power on!8. Same thing in the dark!Best,Rutgerps. The 'product number' TR-3, as mentioned on the frontpanel, is a slight hint to the people that made this thing possible:ThorstenRick (Jansen)Robert (Moog)Rutger Quote
rutgerv Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Posted January 19, 2009 And finally a sound demo!Note:* All sounds except drums come from the MBSID V2* No EQ's or FX's were used except for a little reverb and delay on the master mix* All sounds were designed with the MBSID V2 Editor :)Enjoy!RutgerSIDv2_demo.mp3SIDv2_demo.mp3 Quote
nILS Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 [me=nILS Podewski]bows to rutger[/me]I am impressed! Quote
m00dawg Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 !!!That thing is so awesome, I'm sort of at a loss for words, except perhaps:Wow that's damned impressive! Quote
toneburst Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Very impressive! It's fascinating to see another variation on the all-in-one 8-SID board.Those illuminated buttons are great, too.Great work!!a|x Quote
stryd_one Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 ...........Whoa. I'm sort of at a loss for words Quote
TK. Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Great customisation and impressive demo!!! :)The mp3 can now be downloaded directly from the server:http://www.midibox.org/users/rutgerv/SIDv2_demo.mp3Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote
Futureman Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Jesus H Christ! I think a token offering of some burnt out regulators is in order for such a god like vision!very impressed!RegardsMike Quote
Max Romantschuk Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Very impressive piece of hardware. :)So, are you keeping the schematics etc. to yourself, or are you going to share? ;)I'm sure a lot of people would very much to build a MIDI-controllable moog filter... :) Quote
seppoman Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Rutger, that's a fantastic machine :o Glad you finally finished it. I also think your demo tune is just great, you should definitely do an extended version of it that doesn't end so abruptly :)oh and btw, please also share your mbsid patches as you're obviously one of the few people who doesn't just use the presets ;)S Quote
Wilba Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 After seeing this one develop over what seems like years :) it's great to see the finished box... Congratulations Rutger! Quote
rutgerv Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 Hi everyone,thanks for the positive comments! Thanks to TK for making this possible and putting my MBSID up as Midibox of the week.So, are you keeping the schematics etc. to yourself, or are you going to share? ;)I'm sure a lot of people would very much to build a MIDI-controllable moog filter... :)I considered sharing the schematics and PCB layout, but I decided not to do so at the moment. There are a couple of flaws in the prototype that I fixed manually, but I haven't updated my schematics and PCB layout. Doing so would require alot of work and time. If I would put it up as is, I would probably have to give alot of support with it as well. The other thing is that the PCB was customized for parts that I had lying around (some spare cooling blocks for the regulators and stuff). This would probably not fit for anyone else, unless you happen to have the same spare parts lying around.However, I'd be happy to share knowledge from this design with you. It's basically just Thorsten's schematics in a different layout with included AOUT_LC modules, modified Moog filter (Rick Janssen schematic), PSU and mixer/headphone module. The headphone-mixer was inspired by a schematic from musicfromouterspace.com (although modified quite a bit). The biggest 'novelty' is probably the addition of an extra VCA circuit in the Moog filter design to make the resonance controllable with CV from the AOUT_LC. Best,Rutger Quote
stryd_one Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 If you release the layout publicly, be prepared to see it on ebay. I'd advise against it, as much as I f***in HATE to say that :( Quote
Smithy Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 *Explodescongratulations on such an epic feat Rutger! I'm speechless.Which of the synths that we hear in the demo are sids?Stryd, maybe it would be a good idea for Tk and some other high ranking dudes to store the layout in his safe, incase theses interest for a bulk order in the future! Quote
stryd_one Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Well I was going to say that and I thought maybe I might sound pushy, but thankyou for breaking the ice. Yeh I think it would be very cool if the info was mailed to someone for safekeeping. In the past have grabbed copies of stuff, which have later proven very handy ;) Quote
seppoman Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Which of the synths that we hear in the demo are sids?* All sounds except drums come from the MBSID V2 Quote
cavey Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 The sounddemo sounds heavily inspired by the old amiga/pc mod days. Stuff from the guys of Future Crew Unreal Vector Demo and Second Reality come to mind (Skaven and Purple Motion or so?)Nice nice nice :D Out of curiosity, been a demoscener Rutger?Oh yeah, not to end up entirely off-topic: I had to have a good look first because I thought it was YAMB-6582, but it's actually home designed! Impressive. Quote
m00dawg Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Ah the demoscene...*drifts away in thought*. You know it's still around right? Not as amazing as the Future Crew days perhaps but it's still alive and kicking. Quote
Smithy Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 My apologies for not spotting that first time sound seppo. I was/am viewing the forum on my phone so that didnt help either.pS whoa :oThat is some heavy sid usage there, its my first time hearing what trully can be done with a lot of sids - leads and pads wise i mean, not forgetting TKs poly demos.A video demo would probably max out matrixsynths bandwidth for the month! :P Quote
Phattline Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 The biggest 'novelty' is probably the addition of an extra VCA circuit in the Moog filter design to make the resonance controllable with CV from the AOUT_LC. more infos! please ;) , i hang on that thing with my sid-controlled-303, my problem, to find a way to make the feed back....i also thougt on vcas.... what sheme did you used there? Quote
boops Posted April 28, 2009 Report Posted April 28, 2009 :o the lead sound !!!!a great example of the two worlds" analog and digital" hope in the future ,compose with a synth like that!!!!!great idea ,beautiful sounds and to finish (i am jealous of your mixer and phone option ;) ) Boop's a siddish fan . Best regards Quote
Sasha Posted April 29, 2009 Report Posted April 29, 2009 Amazing demo and serious work! Didn`t know SIDs can sound that great. ;) I wonder would your patches sound similar on naked MB6582. Quote
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