atom Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I used java 7 so that might be the issue, i'll try the 6th version. Also i finally found a shop that i can buy PIC18F4685 in and also the EEPROMs for the memory, so i ordered that and am awaiting shipment, i also got a 4x20 LCD so the v2 SID version is needed to get the 4 lines working. UPDATE: I tried Java SE 6 u23 and still a BSOD in ROMIO.sys witch is the driver file of my ESI ROMIO USB MIDI interface Edited July 3, 2012 by atom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 UPDATE: I tried Java SE 6 u23 and still a BSOD in ROMIO.sys witch is the driver file of my ESI ROMIO USB MIDI interface sounds like there is a bug in the MIDI device driver. This also explains the blue screen (which is not caused by Java itself) It could make sense to search for an update or alternative MIDI driver. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I think it will be faster to buy a different MIDI cable/device, those chinese USB dongles are cheap and usually need no drivers under Win7 the generic driver works with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Don't do that! This will cause more trouble than it could possibly solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Most of those interfaces are on the blacklist: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_blacklist Especially this one which is available at Amazon for 7 EUR (since years) but doesn't output (and receive) SysEx properly: ^^^^^^^^ Don't buy! Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Well i think i won't be using the JSynthlib stuff anyway, since i got my new PIC, burned the bootloader on it and uploaded mios and the new SID app. So Ctrlr should work with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingosimon Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Is there a way to edit multiple SID engines at once? I can select SID1 SID2 SID3 SID4 individually, but not more than one at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Do you mean that you want to send the same parameter changes to multiple SIDs? Currently this can't be selected in the panel, but it would be possible to add the function. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingosimon Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Yeah, that's what I meant, just selecting all SIDs at once on the MB-6582 full control surface. I hope that feature is added later, as well as the ability to save/send patches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jumik Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hi all, i'm new here and i bought a used sammichSID last week. I've updated it with MIOS 1.9g and MBSID v2.040. Using Ctrlr revision 945 and MIDIbox SID v2 panel (1.7) i've been able to receive patches from the MBSID (haven't learned how to send/store them into the MBSID yet). I can control the oscillators, filters and so on thru the VSTi but the only way to make the MBSID to play from there is by pressing the play-button with the mouse. I've been trying to get it to work with Ableton Live but i cant get them to work together. There are no problems if i send MIDI from Ableton Live directly to the MBSID but if i try to do it with the VSTi nothing happens. The "Panel receives MIDI from host" doesn't seem to help either. Has anyone got this working with Ableton Live, any help would be appreciated! I'm using Windows 7 (64 bit) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monokinetic Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi Bob, I'm afraid I don't use Ableton, so I can't comment on that. But one thing you can try is to enter Edit mode in the Ctrlr VSTi (right click the panel, select Edit mode from memory). Then go through the parameters bar on the right of the Edit screen and look for the MIDI Ins and Outs as well as the channel selected for the VSTi, make sure they are what you expect. mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00dawg Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 For what it's worth, I haven't been able to get the MBFM CTRLR talking back and forth with Ableton Live either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jumik Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks monokinetic, i will have a look tomorrow. Too bad it wont work. Hopefully i'm just doing something wrong, otherwise i hope there will be a fix for this in the near future ... please? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 For sure, I'm just still waiting for the Ctrlr update which helps to get my panels working again. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jumik Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Thanks TK, really appreciate your work! I'll be waiting! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downerczx Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Hello, I'm having some trouble getting it to work. I have a Lexicon Lambda interface and am using EnergyXT and also Renoise as hosts. I can select the Lexicon as the midi input and output device, but when I hit receive, I don't get the current patch. Likewise, I make changes and hit send and nothing happens. I'm using the versions of Ctrlr and the panel as shown in the first post. Also, same story with standalone. Any ideas? Thanks. Edited September 28, 2012 by downerczx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downerczx Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Here's what LUA is putting out (standalone): INFO ][14:42:35:000186]: *** CtrlrProcessor::ctor done [iNFO ][14:42:35:000186]: CtrlrProcessor::ctor overrides file is at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Ctrlr\Ctrlr-x64.overrides [MIDI OUT][14:42:37:000026]: CtrlrMidiDevice::openDevice Lexicon Lambda Midi [iNFO ][14:42:37:000440]: CtrlrLuaManager::ctor, lua is enabled [LUA ][14:42:37:000471]: MANAGER INIT [LUA ][14:42:37:000558]: init [WARN ][14:42:50:000504]: CtrlrMidiInputComparator::addMatchTarget an unknown midi type found=9 [WARN ][14:42:50:000504]: CtrlrMidiInputComparator::addMatchTarget an unknown midi type found=9 ... about 1000 times... [WARN ][14:42:51:000125]: CtrlrMidiInputComparator::addMatchTarget an unknown midi type found=9 [WARN ][14:42:51:000125]: CtrlrMidiInputComparator::addMatchTarget an unknown midi type found=9 [WARN ][14:42:51:000125]: CtrlrMidiInputComparator::addMatchTarget an unknown midi type found=9 [LUA ][14:43:43:000024]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:43:59:000694]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:00:000732]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:00:000794]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000076]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000137]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000429]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000500]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000791]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:01:000860]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000144]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000209]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000517]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000587]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000909]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:02:000973]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:03:000271]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:03:000345]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:03:000634]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:03:000705]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:03:000996]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:04:000061]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:04:000388]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:04:000448]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:04:000692]: Change to SID1 [LUA ][14:44:10:000332]: Init for engine 1 [LUA ][14:44:10:000414]: Engine changed to 1 [LUA ][14:44:11:000365]: Init End Hello, I'm having some trouble getting it to work. I have a Lexicon Lambda interface and am using EnergyXT and also Renoise as hosts. I can select the Lexicon as the midi input and output device, but when I hit receive, I don't get the current patch. Likewise, I make changes and hit send and nothing happens. I'm using the versions of Ctrlr and the panel as shown in the first post. Also, same story with standalone. Any ideas? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downerczx Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Ok, so I downloaded the latest version of Ctrlr to see if it would help and, yes, I was able to use it! However, it looks like the panel doesn't work with the latest version. So, I tried to go back to the earlier one and broken again. I believe that I followed the wrong order when I initially set it up, as my midi interface does not load as default. I think if I could just "set it up right" one time, 945 would work. However, I've uninstalled it, deleted the directory and vst's and reinstalled it, and still... the old configuration auto loads. Does anyone know where to delete the old config so I can "start fresh"? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downerczx Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well, at long last I have it working. I had to delete the data in c:\users\username\appdata\ctrlr so I could start ctrlr, pick midi devices, open panel, pick midi devices in panel and away I went. Still, I don't know how to get my midi keyboard to send note messages as well as my interface to the sammichSID. I tried using a midiloopback device so I could merge midi outputs in EnergyXT but it didn't seem to work with the loopback device, even though the output was going to the same output it went to before. Oh well. I hope the new version of Ctrlr allows you to send a midi input to the VST so you can send some notes. Ok, so I downloaded the latest version of Ctrlr to see if it would help and, yes, I was able to use it! However, it looks like the panel doesn't work with the latest version. So, I tried to go back to the earlier one and broken again. I believe that I followed the wrong order when I initially set it up, as my midi interface does not load as default. I think if I could just "set it up right" one time, 945 would work. However, I've uninstalled it, deleted the directory and vst's and reinstalled it, and still... the old configuration auto loads. Does anyone know where to delete the old config so I can "start fresh"? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkdISCO Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Yeah, same as your guys: Windows XP Ableton Live but, no MIDI notes going through the VST. I can control the MB's parameters but not play notes.. (the PLAY option plays a single note) Looking forward to getting this working as looks like a great editor.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk Text SLUT to: 29 7 29 7 Here’s the video: www.youtu.be/Zl0PTZKy7fg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taika-Kim Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yes me too can't figure how to send notes to sammichSID at the same time with the editor. Also it crashes if I remove the program from the DAW or close the standalone panel. Same thing if I close the panel in the CTRLR window. In the menu boxes on the left a black text "modulat..." is written on top of the SID1, LEAD and OSC menu items, and if I leave that panel page, I can't return to that page again. Do I understand correctly, that on the sammichSID the chips can't be individually programmed, even with the "link stereo" unselected? Otherwise seems to work, just tried it for the first time now, there was some strange hiccups when I was now running it, but a few minutes go everything seemed really nice. Looks like a very useful tool, especially now with my Sammich encoder quite broken, and I am unable to find anybody who can send me a replacement :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taika-Kim Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Oh, I found a bit clunky way to use CTRLR with sequencers: Install MIDIox and MIDIyoke, then send output from CTRLR to "midiyoke 1" for example. Then send MIDI data from the sequencer to "midiyoke 2" for example, and then route both midiyoke 1 and 2 to your MIDI interface output port that is connected to the sammichSID MIDI input port. Confused? In short: just meld CTRLR and DAW MIDI data with Midiox. This is grrreeeeeat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nice! :thumbsup: Too bad, that Windows doesn't provide virtual interfaces by default. Under MacOS "MIDI busses" are natively supported (on the other hand, MIDI interfaces are always multiclient capable, so that such workarounds are not required) Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labelwhore Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yes me too can't figure how to send notes to sammichSID at the same time with the editor. I use Miditrix to play notes while messing with the editor. It's really easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param1 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) I replaced Midiyoke with this nice application: http://www.tobias-er...e/loopmidi.html It's 64bit compatible and let's you name your virutal midi ports. Edited December 18, 2012 by Param1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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