MIDIbox SEQ V4 Wishlist

[kieran]

why do you need motorfaders?

You could just as easily use rotary encoders with LED rings to produce the same effect to give immediately visible controller feedback. The idea would be to have some divisor of the level for whatever layer is active to show changes in value for that position. When you grab the encoder, it moves the level approximated by the LED ring to whatever level you please. It may not be as accurate as a long-throw motorfader, but it would be a good compromise as it would save on tons of space on your panel.

If you want something like this, check out the Doepfer Regelwerk.

http://www.doepfer.de/rw_e.htm

although it isn't motorised.

:)

[Echopraxia]

I don't know if this has been discussed or implemented. I didnt see it on the feature list.

Tempo track? with glide function for smoothness?

It would be nice to do "real time record" tempo changes in a sequence and assign each tempo change to one of the 16 gp stepbuttons.

What I am saying is have a tempo track where each 16 step buttons trigger a pre constructed tempo change. I.E go from one swirly 16 step slow down on tempo pattern GP 1 and be able to press GP 2,3,4, ect. and go to for instance a 32 step rise and fall tempo. I think this would make for cooler breakdowns and acid trips since you would be able to alter tempo in dramatic ways on the fly.

[Phattline]

why do you need motorfaders?

You could just as easily use rotary encoders with LED rings to produce the same effect to give immediately visible controller feedback. The idea would be to have some divisor of the level for whatever layer is active to show changes in value for that position. When you grab the encoder, it moves the level approximated by the LED ring to whatever level you please. It may not be as accurate as a long-throw motorfader, but it would be a good compromise as it would save on tons of space on your panel.

If you want something like this, check out the Doepfer Regelwerk.

http://www.doepfer.de/rw_e.htm

although it isn't motorised.

:)

I know I know  ;D, but with ledrings with 16 LEDS you only have 16 notes (ok that isnt the problem) and the resolution and handling is 100:1 ----if have tried a behringer bcr2000, and editet Sequences with it---and I have editet the same setup with 100mm Fader---wuhuuuu yeah 1000% better...

But OK, If Ledrings with 32 LEDs or so will be supportet...the resulution is big enough  ;D ---like on the nord---led bars and Encoders (or switches) under it.....but more leds---to show the note of the step  ;D

[Jack]

Hi,

My wish is a multipurpose Hardware and Software plattform, switchable per SW.

Hardware extention wish (optional):

- 2x additional 40x2 LCD support

- 16x additional encoder

- 32x Led Rings

- 64x Button/LED Matrix

- 8x or more Stribes

Software applications wish:

- SwinSiD

- C4pro clone

- ...

Best regards

Jack

[/tilted/]

But OK, If Ledrings with 32 LEDs or so will be supportet...the resulution is big enough  ;D ---like on the nord---led bars and Encoders (or switches) under it.....but more leds---to show the note of the step  ;D

Re the Nord photo...

what if each button pair had two rows of LEDs? perhaps one row for 'octave' and another row for 'note'...

In this case, you could probably do the whole thing with 2 rows of 8 LEDs. -I'd suggest the 'note' row be duo LEDs, so you can have sharps, too...

This is kinda not software wishlist stuff anymore. This could perhaps be integrated into an external controller.

[Phattline]

---that was a idea---not a wish  ;) ---ok a secret wish---my officell wish is a function to mix the midisequences via faders or rotarys....

yes of course it is a-hardware adaption---but it requires---a stoftware....

...I am also for a LED-Matrix--- (like on the sid---only bigger---and instead of only one button under it--two buttons----i am thinking of 32x32 LEDs) that can show and- edit- Poly sequences.

And maybe a Pipe-organ---"chorder" function would be cool too (like on the photo)  ;D....of course---adittional hardware would be requierd....

I write only ideas... if it is possible or not-  ??? - hardware would be requierd...-ok----but it could be integratet (or the Midi-CC for external controller could be given) in the software  :) -because I dont think with a controller you can now edit your SEQv3,3 with visable chord functions and show the poly notes in a LED matrix???? and Edit it in this matrix??? this is a softwarewish too  ;)

(btw---read my other messages too--- and you will understand it is not only done with a simple external controller!)

[Jack]

Hi,

We could use the ring as bar. Or a Bar as ring.  ;D

@Phattline

How about the Stribe instead of a Motorfader?

Best regards

Jack

[nebula]

I know this is frivolous, but what about animation on the matrix display, like tenori-on?  I have some tri-color LEDs that are just waiting for something to do with that third colour.

[Phattline]

Hi,

We could use the ring as bar. Or a Bar as ring.  ;D

@Phattline

How about the Stribe instead of a Motorfader?

Best regards

Jack

that would be sooooo dam cooooool  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[moroe]

hello

i would like to see a midi delay like the yamaha rs7000 has.

here is a copy of the manual:

DELAY TIME ....[Knob 1]

[settings] 0030 ~ 1920 (clocks)

Sets the delay time. The delay time is the amount of time

between the playback of the original notes and the delay

notes, specified in clock increments (one 1/4 note = 480

clocks).

2 DELAY LEVEL ....[Knob 2]

[settings] 000 ~ 127 (%)

Sets the velocity of the delay sound in percent.

3 REPEAT TIMES....[Knob 3]

[settings] 00 ~ 64

Specifies the number of delay repeats.

FB VELOCITY (Feedback Velocity) ....[Knob 1]

[settings] -127 ~ +127

When MIDI delay is set up to produce multiple repeats, gradual

changes in the level of the repeats are produced by

increasing or decreasing the velocity values.

For example, if the velocity of the original data is 100 and the

FB VELOCITY value is set to +10, if the velocity of the first

repeat is 60, the second repeat will be 70, the third 80, and so on.

FB NOTE (Feedback Note) .....[Knob 2]

[settings] -24 ~ +24, RDN

When MIDI delay is set up to produce multiple repeats,

changes in the pitch of the repeats can be produced in semitone

or whole-tone increments.

For example, if the pitch of an original note is C3 and the FB

NOTE value is set to +1, the pitch of the first repeat will be

C#3, the second repeat will be D3, the third D#3, and so on.

When RND (RANDOM) is selected the pitch of the delayed

notes will change at random.

FB GATE TIME (Feedback Time).....[Knob 3],

[settings] -100 ~ +100 (%)

When MIDI delay is set up to produce multiple repeats, this

parameter can be used to apply gradual changes in the gate

time of the repeats. The gate times of the repeats are affected

as follows:

The gate time of the 1st repeat =

the original gate time × the TIME parameter setting.

The gate time of the 2nd and subsequent repeats =

the gate time of the preceding repeat × the TIME setting.

For example, if the gate time of an original note is 240 clocks

and the TIME parameters is set to –50%, the gate time of the

1st repeat will be 120 clocks, the second repeat will be 60

clocks, the third 30 clocks, and so on.

FB CLOCK (Feedback Clock)....[Knob 4]

[settings] -100 ~ +100 (%)

When MIDI delay is set up to produce multiple repeats, this

parameter can be used to apply gradual changes in the delay

time of the repeats. The delay times of the repeats are

affected as follows:

The delay time of the 2nd and subsequent repeats =

the delay time of the preceding repeat × the FB CLOCK

setting.

For example, if the delay time of an original note is 240

clocks and the FB CLOCK parameters is set to –50%, the

delay time of the 1st repeat will be 120 clocks, the second

repeat will be 60 clocks, the third 30 clocks, and so on.

[moroe]

i would like to have a step shift feature which moves a step behind or forward the original position

STEP SHIFT

Shifts the timing of the specified step, forward or backward in clock increments (there are 480 clocks per quarter note) up to a

maximum of plus or minus 120 clocks (i.e. a 16th note).

[moroe]

i would like to have some of the yamaha rs7000 midi features described below:

OCTAVER .....[Knob 2]

[settings] -10 ~ -1, OFF, +1 ~ +10

Creates and plays a phrase the specified number of octaves

above or below the original phrase data.

3 HARMONIZE 1 ......[Knob 3]

4 HARMONIZE 2 ......[Knob 4]

[settings] -99 ~ -1, OFF, +1 ~ +99

Adds a harmonized phrase to the recorded phrase data to createa rich, harmony sound.

Two harmonize effects with different settings can be used simultaneously

A feature to add some different implemented chords from a list (1-100) would also be nice

[moroe]

i would also like to see a midi lfo and or midi adsr envelope per track

i really hate that mosts synths only have 2 lfo´s and envelopes.

you mentioned a sysex patch send option in the announcement of V4.

this would be awesome.

hope that you also implement a sysex patch record funktion for synths.

i saw that the Midibox UC is able to request the synthesizer's edit buffer, maybe you can use some of his code

i really would like to have a total recall hardware studio

imagine that you only have to press a "gather all settings from synths" button and all connected hardware is sending their patches to the sequencer for saving as a whole project.

if you implement a flash card for saving all data, please let us use the biggest cards available (16 gigabyte ?)

[arumblack]

imagine that you only have to press a "gather all settings from synths" button and all connected hardware is sending their patches to the sequencer for saving as a whole project.

if you implement a flash card for saving all data, please let us use the biggest cards available (16 gigabyte ?)

Heh, that would be a lot of sysex data streaming in all at once. nice idea though. would definitely have to do a request synth 1, wait for rx, request synth 2, wait...etc.

AS for 16 GB cards, hah, you could store a rediculous number of patches on a 512Mb card. of course if there is not technical reason to limit the size of the card I'm sure TK wouldn't limit you, just doesn't seem to be his style.

and of course what would you do when the 32 or 64 Gb cards come out.......

[moroe]

will the version 4 of midibox seq have more than 3 parameter layers per track ?

i would like to have Chord (up to 4 notes), Velocity, Gatelength, step shift and two controllers at the same time.

please also add the possibility to expand the seq V4 with more buttons and knobs to avoid menue digging.

maybe over a seperate midi controler box like the MIDIBOX64e via sysex commands, if this would be easier for you to implement (fewer digital in modules).

i really would have 3 additional 16 knob rows to control the parameter layers :)

here another feature of the yamaha rs7000:

REC MONITOR.....

MIDI data received via the MIDI IN connector is re-transmitted via the MIDI channel and MIDI output

assigned to the currently selected track of the sequencer.

In this case the currently selected midi channel on the midi keyboard will be remapped to

the midi channel of the currently selected midibox seq V4 track.

So you dont have to switch the midi channel on the midi keyboard to play a other synth.

there are so much other ideas to mangle midi data

why not implement a sort of korgs KARMA  or things from the LATRONIC NOTRON sequencer.

another big hit would be to use a big 16x16 knob/led matrix like the monome with the seq V4 (maybe as a seperate module)

damn i am dreaming away:)

[moroe]

I don´t mind features like 128 steps... but please keep it a stepseq... 64 steps is fine even 32 as it is now..

me too, 64 steps are enough for me.

i really need more layers (like 10, for controllers)

as i understand is this not possible with 128 steps because of ram shortcomings.

and definately keep it as stepsequencer, i hate that mpc, mv8800 concept

greets

moroe

[arumblack]

I don't think anyone has mentioned it so: The possibility for more IIC MIDI (or other) modules. 8 or 16 would be awesome. I'd also love to have a 16x16 BLM, for drum editing of course.

Someone mentioned labels and a usb keyboard, no need for usb keyboard, we just need a shift function to use the BLM as a text input device...could also be used for direct acces to patterns (or is this alredy possible, I havent hooked up my BLM yet).

[moroe]

Hello

Is it possible to implement a feature which sends a recording start message when the sequencer starts and a recording stop message when the sequencer stops, to a hardware sampler like the emu e6400 or a korg M3 ?

I dont know if this is generally possible with midi or sysex.

I wanna sample the loop which ist generated via the seqV4 trough a virus c.

Only problem is that the sampler has to be stopped after ONE run of the pattern.

I dont know if its possible to make a one shot pattern with seqV4 ?

This means that the sequencer has to have the option to play the pattern only one times after the press of the start button and has to automaticly stop after the pattern ends.   

I would also like to have a option to sample each note after another from a synth, like this software does:

http://www.samplerobot.de/english/was.htm.

For this, seqV4 has to send a rising note on, note number and a note off message, in a adjustable amount of time between the notes.

But the problem is how to tell the sampler that he has to put each sample on another key.

I am not a hardware sampler specialist so i dont know if this is possible.

But you could cut silence out of the big file and then extract each sampled note to another key.

Please forgive my bad english, i am German :)

Greets

Moroe

[moroe]

another one:

maybe implemented now, but i dont know.

pls make it possible to add so much midi outs as we want :)

i have 8 synths and would like to put each synth on a seperate midi out.

greets

moroe

[TK.]

MBSEQ V3 supports up to 5 MIDI Out ports, which results into 80 (!) MIDI channels

This is much more than supported by any commercial HW sequencer (they normaly provide only one or two MIDI Out ports)

So, what prevents you from chaining your synths via MIDI Thru, or duplicating a MIDI Out port with the MBHP_LTC module and sending MIDI events over a different channel?

I don't want to say that it is impossible to provide more MIDI Out ports by adding more MBHP_IIC_MIDI modules, but from my point it's only wasted money (not to say: such features can only be requested by dilettants ;))

Best Regards, Thorsten.

[Twin-X]

I vote for the midi delay as moroe described.

[moroe]

So, what prevents you from chaining your synths via MIDI Thru, or duplicating a MIDI Out port with the MBHP_LTC module and sending MIDI events over a different channel?

Hello Thorsten

I have all my synths hooked up on a m-audio midisport 8x8 wit 8 inputs and outputs.

I have both the midi in and out from the synths connected to the midi interface.

This seems to be the only way to use soundquests midiquest editor-librarian and use the patch funktions of the midisport 8x8.

I mostly save my synth presets with midiquest and send them from the library.

I would like to make a switch box which switches the synths between the midisport8x8 and the seq v4 and every time i have to save sounds with midiquest i have to switch.

This is the only thing what i do with a pc.

Want to make music without the computer turned on.

Greets

Moroe

[TK.]

Twin-X: don't worry, a delay will be available (therefore I've already prepared a "Fx" page, see GP button layout of the virtual MBSEQ V4)

Moroe: duplicating the MIDI Outs will be sufficient for this usecase. Each additional MIDI Out will require 2 inverters of a 74HC00 (used as a buffer), accordingly 2 74HC00 are required to duplicate the 4 outputs of the MBHP_IIC_MIDI modules.

As stated above: it isn't so difficult to provide access to more MBHP_IIC_MIDI modules (in fact it's already prepared for 8, and it could be extended to up to 128) - but IMHO it isn't worth the money, as there are cheaper solutions w/o real loss of functionality.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

[moroe]

hello thorsten

thx for reply

i saw at the IIC MIDI Module description that the bus load could increase to a level, where buffers overflow and data get lost, if i add more than 4 IIC Midi Modules.

so i will search another solution for my needs.

damn why isnt second quarter of 2009 now , i cant await the first moment when seqv4 runs on my destop  :)

the whole ucapps project is sooo genious

greets

moroe

[rbv2]

[*]more steps per track, at least 128

[*]16 additional tracks for drums/percussions only, improved editing

that would be perfect!

thanks

rbv2