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Yeah, these switches are ok; the thing with the midibox switches is that the have to be a momentary contact; it only needs to let the din/core know it has been pushed. Then you can configure MB64(software-wise) so that this button for instance reacts as a toggle switch (for swithing fx on/off etc) or a pushbutton (note on/off). contactresistance? cheers, marcel

Hi, I think Sheaffer (company which also made the FrontpanelDesigner softw) has a fair price if you concider it's probably the best/most proffesional option, around EUR 100,- depending on your design. And when you open or make a design in FPD you can check the pricing by clicking a button. You could also check out this; http://monopole.ph.qmul.ac.uk/~thomas/synthdiy/cnc.htm it's a synthDIY-er who started his on CNCdrilling/engraving service. Dunno all the options you have here, but its about half the price of a Schaeffer panel. Read the info-page of the core module; the core is also your midi-interface (which you can expand with the LTC module (midi-thru)), it has two ports which you connect to midi(din) sockets. cheers, marcel

hey julian (and others). It's possible you use paypal with bank-transfers. Info on paypal site; cheers, marce;l

Hi all, I had exactly the same problem with my sequencer encoders; example: when i turned them slowly forward they would skip values back(!) and forward. I then changed the setup so all encoders were in "detented2" mode, but the problem was the same. Since my sequencer had about 1billion wires running over/under/trough everything, i blamed the problem on this mess. I didn't use the bourns encoders but the ones from voti.nl> should be detented2; have the same in my MBSID Then made some pcb's for mounting dins+encoders+buttons+leds; to avoid the wire mess; but since this was the first time i designed a pcb for this means AND i didn't read/modify the code/setup before this attempt resulted in a second failure :-/ :-[ As we say in holland; "3x is scheepsrecht" (=the 3rd time it will work), so when I've recieved my new etchingchemicals/boards from Reichelt i'm bound to finish this nice piece of equipment... i hope.. My question; can the behaviour of the encoders be explained by the messy wireing or would this be a more systematic error (pcb-design fault, code fault)?? cheers, marcel

Hi, this is where lcd's come in handy ;) But this is not possible, so here goes; First i should check if all resistors on the din board are properly soldered/connected; on the din-page it says; Your MIDIbox will send a lot of random MIDI traffic without these pull-ups, so don't miss them! Check if you got all the required pull-up/down resistors on your modified core module. Then if there still is a problem; follow the steps in the "midi-debugging thread". Hope i haven't been bothering you with things you knew allready, anyways good luck! marcel

hi, If you have good tools you can make casings yourself, just concider that; It will take A LOT OF time/patience to make it your own, especially holes that aren't round are a pain (but it is very possible to get good results look for techniques described in the forum.) It will never (say never ;D) look as good as when you would have it made (unless you have a nice CNC-machine in your metal-shop) Front panels made by scheaffer (http://www.schaeffer-apparatebau.de/English/index.htm) can cost a lot (example; the frontpanel of TK's MidiboxSID costs about 130,- euros) but it will be exactly what you designed> if you got a good design everything will fit for sure. cheers, marcel

:D ;D keep playing tetris!~! thanks again!

word! ;D looking at shx8 rev; :o NO MORE BRIDGES....!!! man, thats improvement, thanks.

well it figures, you have one eye closed ;D it's in the LCD module page (hardware platform) under "two character lcd's" cheers, marcel

hey, just go read the midi-debugging thread in the testing/troubleshooting section, and follow the steps; If this doesn't tackle your problem, show us your testing results, complete hardware description and then probably someone will be able to help you. (the info you've given now is not enough to understand what the problem can be (at least for me :P)) good luck, marcel

Hi Pierrot, I'm not sure about this because i haven't made a MB64 yet, but it seems that the pots in the groups you were talking about are all configured as the same CC#?? If so, you can use one of Serge's editing tools (http://www.midibox.org/mios_tools/) to assign to each pot a different CC#. Then try assigning a pot to a parameter in Traktor or whatever, this should work, or am i being stupid right now? (Sometimes very possible :P ;) ) cheers, marcel

hello, concidering desoldering the MBSID is easier; you don't desolder at all (and the MBFM aswell if you order new ic's ;)) depends on what you want; you have to read the hardware options carefully, decide what hardware you want; then you can calculate what the costs will be building it; (this is different for everyone; what/howmany knobs/encoders/displays etc) eehm, depends on your "partfinding qualities" and your lokation, but most parts you can find in big electronic mailorders (not the cheapest solution (try ebay)) as MBFM is still in development so i don't know that; but if you know some (virtual) (subtractive?) analog synths, i think MBSID is easy to understand. OSCpitch/pulswidth/(vca)/Filter modulated by envelopes and LFO's (and if this sounds boring; you can do wavetables too) i think this could aswell be subject of an endless discussion; best thing is to listen to the samples, hear if one of the synths has your preference; anyway i'm sure both synths have very interesting specs and sounds in short; you probably will want to build both.... ;D good luck; marcel

Dear Nexus..... As for the other question here's what i did in 3 minutes; If you have read the info on ucapps.de (please do this good; there are people who built complete midiboxes only with the info given there) concerning the midiboxsidsynth; you will notice that the only parts you need from the commodore are the SID sound ic (SID6581 or SID8580) and (optionally) the commodore power supply. Go to google or something similar!! and search for; "commodore 128" SID on the first page there is this text; easy yeah? The ucapps site can look a bit overwhelming at first, but the documentation is good and all there, just take your time reading it step by step, and just start building the thing! Like someone said before; the worst thing that can happen is that it doesn't work the first time, and at that point i'm sure everyone at this forum will be more than willing to help you.. cheers marce\

Hey G! I'm busy with something similar; one box with midi controller part and midi/cv converter with analog (drum)synth modules. I was thinking of using one core for the midi controller part and one core for midi>cv but if it's not neccesary... Since i think you will get results before me (still haven't finished mbseq :P :P); please keep us (me) updated how good it works! cheers, marcel

peace to all....!

Hi, for (most of the) buttons used in MIOS applications you need momentary pushbuttons wich are "normally open" (=NO); the switch will only be closed when you push it. Push on/push of can be used for power switch. Keep the 3 position switch for other projects (lp/bp/hp switch on a nice diy vcf for instance :)) as for the pots; a few posts down you can find this; http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=parts_q;action=display;num=1103305075 good luck, marcel

:o :'( this world (people that is) can be so fucked up sometimes.... RIP

Hi, I'm also building a shx8 module to use with midibox cv. The midibox_cv is quite a new application and the shx8 an even newer module; it's working like you said in mb64 but still has to be implemented in the other applications for more possibilities. at the moment however, TK is in the middle of designing the midibox fm-synth ( ;D ;D); which leaves i guess not so much time for doing anything else... for me this means i'm going to build the shx8 module when i get the parts and just be patient.. (well, patient; from my experience i'm slower in building pcb's then TK is in making complete applications so it will be fine  ;) ) Just figure out what you want to make exactly (sequencer, midicontroller , midi interface) by reading about the possibilities(+planned features) of the applications and thinking about what you plan to do with your machine; and if there are things you want wich aren't implemented yet; read around a lot on the forum to look for news, and again, patience... good luck, marcel

manomanomanoman...... it has a drumsynth!?! :D (still can't open demo5_mp3, but hey, i'll build it anyway) can't wait to start on this one! TK, thanks for staying active and sharing your creations! cheers, marcel

hi, if you have the bootstrap loader and mios installed (you know for sure you do?) you just have to upload the right syx-file (so setup_8580_without_cs.syx or setup_6581_without_cs.syx for now) or you can modify one of the other asm-files and build it to a hex-file, (both with mplab_ide). then convert the hex to syx and upload it through midi. Both mios and the application can be uploaded with midi-ox or serges sysexloader; all to be found on the ucapps.de website. good luck, marcel

please go to another forum; this is a forum about designing electronic music machines

Hi, In fact most of the thing you discribe you can find either on the ucapps.de website (choose what application to build, start reading there and follow/read ALL the relevant links as you progress), in the WIKI; never finished/always growing, this is the place where midiboxers can publish their info on building/programming etc.) and the forum; use the search function to see if there is any information usefull for answering questions that you have (i know there is; look in tips&tricks) and if you can't find it, you can always ask the helpful people that roam around these pages... of course it would be less work if everything was in the same place (that's of course the idea of the wiki), but you'll be surprised what other things you learn when you are searching for one thing. cheers, marcel

thats what i thought, cutting and wireing it is then :P thanks for the answer marcel

Hi This weekend i'm going to place the (european bulk)order for the S&H chips for the SHX8-module. Smash tv has offered to help us as a middleman (thanks Tim!) Price will be mouser catalog price + the shippincosts/participant (i will calculate then) <<IF ANYONE WANTS THEM; TIME IS NOW TO PM ME!>>> for now the only participants are; moebius criss so; GET THEM WHEN THEIR HOT!! ;D cheers, marcel

hi all, so, any of you code guru's can tell me if it's possible to workaround this problem by making the GP-buttons individually assignable? Or does this affect the stability and speed of the appllication too much; what are the concequences? I know this is probably a lot of work, and it's only workaround for a (stupid :-[ ) mistake i made when designing my pcb's. On the other hand; if there is a simple solution i would hate to miss it and start building a ratsnest of wires again! thanks, marcel moderator; you can move this to mios_programming if you want, didn't want to start another thread