Well, that is how most of us learned and still do. And I don't consider myself a big cheese around here. The sid is the only project I have worked on so far. As it seems to be one of the more popular ones I thought it would be good to do a "pretty much complete guide". No tutorial could possibly contain everything or answer all questions. The forum is still the most valuable resource. But I figured it could be handy to have , all in one file, all the documentation, diagrams , and instructionsFor how to build the certain projects. Especially for ppl like me who don't have internet acces at home. I don't think anyone could write the definitive guide to building a case for your project, That could be a book to itself, and I don't have time to write a book. Of course this could take some amount of time, so my advice for now would be to thouroghly explore ucapps.de. Everything is there, ppl just miss things alot. We are always glad to answer questions here ;) AB